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re: Manchester Bomber Was Banned by Mosque and Reported to the Authorities at Least Five Times

Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:49 pm to
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We have some seriously deranged posters on this site.

Blowing up innocent kids in the name of a cult has a way of pissing a man off.
Posted by NikeShox
Toula Baw
Member since Sep 2016
1251 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 3:50 pm to
Yeah, that's what they always say. "We had them on our radar".
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Proof that having CCTV everywhere and your entire population being under constant surveillance still can't protect against these kinds of attacks when incompetent people are in charge.
But constant surveillance isn't there to protect you in the first place.

Its my opinion these dangerous or potentially dangerous people are allowed in un-checked so that when they do blow shite up, or shoot up a gay night club, etc. the central power can justify further removal of freedoms from its citizens. Obama was trying his damnedest as well. Truly a disgrace.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted by leveedogs
Levee
Member since Jan 2016
276 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 4:59 pm to
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Proof that having CCTV everywhere and your entire population being under constant surveillance still can't protect against these kinds of attacks when incompetent people are in charge.



You are mistaken. UK security services foil attacks all the time. And when they fail to prevent an attack they know exactly who to arrest and which homes to raid based on the communication network of the perpetrator. Individual privacy is dying a slow death, like it or not, as long as Islamists living among us keep trying to kill us and our kids. That's because the alternative would give these sh1theads free reign.

I usually vote Libertarian and understand where you are coming from. But the government is free to read my online posts and track my movements if such access allows them to prevent even a small fraction of these atrocities.

Terrorism (narrowly defined) is fundamentally different to other crime and requires more tools to prevent at the expense of individual privacy.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 5:48 pm to
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It only takes one, even if there are 50 out of the UK's $80 mil total population what do you do? Lock them all up for "thinking" about it?


Exactly. The FBI gets tips all the time about people who "seem threatening" and never do anything. Such as various white supremacist groups and "volunteer militias". All it takes is one Terry McAuliffe and then suddenly everyone is suspect. Plenty of Muslims report people to the FBI here in the US as well, that is hardly new.

I'm wondering how the UK's population is suddenly measured in US dollars though.
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