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re: Major plans for new Baton Rouge health district revealed

Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:39 pm to
He won't have to worry about it. Looks like the ROW is already established. Kodiak is the only street in that ROW and they've left enough room to the east of it between Kodiak and Myrtle Bluff to run Midway Dr.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46979 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:54 pm to
"Many" from LSU do not end up in research. The overwhelming majority of LSU med grads go into some type of clinically related practice. We aren't Duke and frankly don't want to be. Look, I am just pointing out that is just a BS talking point and will be pretty irrelevant.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 12:05 am to
You realize LSU BR and HSC just setup a BS/MD/PhD in Biomedical Engineering that's completed in 2-3 less years than the normal track?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30133 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 12:34 am to
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The smart thing to do would be to add 50-100 spots at both LSU-NO and LSU-Shreveport for the first two years, with the caveat that the clinicals (year 3-4) would be done in Baton Rouge. Building a med school from the ground up wouldn't be smart, imho. Would not want a random D.O. School in Louisiana, which it probably would be.

The med school hasn't really expanded its class size for it, but there are BR branch students from LSU-NO. They do their clinicals exclusively in BR. There is a plan to make an actual branch campus, supposedly, with 30-40 students per class.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 1:00 am to
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Not to mention specific medical programs like radiology are often EE undergrads with their MD.


A ton of radiologist have undergrad tech degrees instead of the traditional premed track, which has probably influenced their willingness to quickly embrace changes in technology. Digital imaging and storage combined with broadband connectivity allows them to practice remotely. If you order a imaging study you will likely get a report from a radiologist located remotely, or if after hours a contract group on the other side of the world. Other than doing interventional procedures there is no need for them to be in a medical facility.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 5:04 pm to
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You could shift the 3rd/4th year rotations for 50 students each from NO/Shreveport to BR and eliminate the BR rotations for LSUHSC-NO students).


This essentially already exists- see page 24, black print. The real difference is that it
1) Doesn't expand the class- just selects X number (32 in the first class) to spend their entire 3rd year in BR
2) Doesn't eliminate the Baton Rouge rotations for everyone else, it just limits the spots.
3) I'm not positive, but I'm fairly certain it reduces some amount of financial strain on the system. When I went through, when we got placed at another LSU program outside the City of New Orleans (excluding Kenner, Metairie, your reasonable driving distances), we were given housing on the school (or maybe the residency program's?) dime. Someone other than us paid for it (probably with our tuition, of course, but it wasn't out of pocket is the point I'm making) because we had to keep New Orleans housing for most of the rotations. I'd imagine freeing up 16-32 apartments (we had roommates pretty frequently) from the budget was a piss-drop in the bucket, but it at least did cut down on the number of out-of-town housing paid for by the LSU umbrella.

I agree that another medical school is silly- there's already the Baton Rouge Branch Campus as well as something like 1-4 students who go off to do all of 3rd year in Lafayette as part of the Rural Med program- the idea you touched on has low-scale infrastructure in place and could fairly easily be expanded depending on the end-goal. There was even plans of a 30- or 40-student 3-year campus in Lafayette dedicated to pumping out primary care physicians. There's absolutely a shortage of most fields of physicians in LA. That said, LSUHSC-NO's Class of 2016 opened up a fair number of spots to out of state students without increasing total enrollment. One statement/rumor I heard was that the amount of spots filled by out of state residents would increase revenue by enough to open the 30-40 student campus in Lafayette.

In terms of increasing class size, though, I seem to remember early on, when people still showed up to class, packed auditoriums with no empty seating. In one class in particular, the CRNA's joined us for lecture, and people sat on the floors. That seems like a relatively easy fix, but it does present a real problem that takes some amount of planning/reorganization or construction to fix.


All in all, I think the goals they state are kind of stupid. It may be dumb that the school didn't already exist in BR, but both moving either one there or opening a new one there seems like a worse answer by far. And if the goal is more Louisiana-committed docs, it's a bad idea to open a new school vs expand + commit to BR as you suggest. And if the goal is for them to take a 5-6 year route through school to get another Bachelor's or Master's degree in a field so that they don't wind up practicing medicine, it's still enticing enough to have them just move to BR for those years, in my opinion.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13398 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 5:45 pm to
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Well don't be an arse hole and drag it out.


I didn't mean I was going to obstruct the project. But I do assume they would compensate me for taking my house. LOL!
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11203 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:40 am to
They need add a way to get between I-10 and I -12 from OLOL without getting on Essen! This in itself would fix most of the congestion from OLOL traffic along with building a walkway across Hennessy Blvd by the parking garage.
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6269 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:51 am to
BRG will close Picardy to auto traffic and the roads to connect Bluebonnet and Essen will have to be built. They are planning to put buildings on the surrounding land. They own all the land around BB and want a medical type of Perkins Rowe ( I know ) for their land around there.
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