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re: Louisiana Open Water Petition
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:17 pm to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:17 pm to meauxjeaux2
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Legislation that says fishing only in tidal waters. Would that satisfy you? It would me.
I'd be down with that
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i have absolutely no idea what the hell that is
Dynamic positioning (DP) is a computer-controlled system to automatically maintain a vessel's position and heading by using its own propellers and thrusters.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:18 pm to musick
The " it is in line with every of other state" clause is BS because no other state has the rate of coastal land loss as Louisiana. The Louisiana coast is an anomaly and should be treated as such.
I understand the petition, but Opening up private land (now open water) could damage measures that land owners have in place to collect sediment on their property like planting of new aquatic grasses or underwater oyster reefs, which may not be apparent to boaters.
I understand the petition, but Opening up private land (now open water) could damage measures that land owners have in place to collect sediment on their property like planting of new aquatic grasses or underwater oyster reefs, which may not be apparent to boaters.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:18 pm to CootKilla
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No thanks, I have a key, I am a member. Wanna go this weekend?
Im on the waiting list
But I'll be down there this weekend......
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:19 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Dularge Hunting Club
I lease my land through the Delacroix Corp. We have our own launch and some areas are gated, but I can't think of a single one that restricts boat traffic.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:21 pm to Corkfather
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some areas are gated, but I can't think of a single one that restricts boat traffic.
then why are those areas gated? What are the gates keeping out?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:23 pm to Bison
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I understand the petition, but Opening up private land (now open water) could damage measures that land owners have in place to collect sediment on their property like planting of new aquatic grasses or underwater oyster reefs, which may not be apparent to boaters.
Where this sounds good in theory -- I'm thinking the amount of land, and the number of landowners that you describe in your statement is absolutely minuscule.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:23 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:then give me my water back, and we'll call it even stevens
the landowner dug the canals using his own money..
Until you fill in the entrance with enough dirt to make it private property, it's my water too. Don't want people back there? Either fill it in, or give me my water
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:28 pm to Hammertime
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It is chicken shite when people can take advantage of the taxpayer's money and just gate them off
go frick yourself.
Signed,
The Harry S. Bourg Corp.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:29 pm to tgrbaitn08
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then why are those areas gated? What are the gates keeping out?
They're gated to protect people's land and duck ponds in areas where there are no other means of access. They're not preventing anyone from accessing any navigable waterways, bays, canals, etc. as people are saying is happening in SWLA.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:32 pm to Corkfather
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They're gated to protect people's land and duck ponds in areas where there are no other means of access.
so theres no way for a boat to travel beyond those gates?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:32 pm to Hammertime
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Until you fill in the entrance with enough dirt to make it private property, it's my water too. Don't want people back there? Either fill it in, or give me my water
nah, I'll just lock the gate when I leave on Sunday
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:33 pm to tgrbaitn08
I won't make it this weekend, going rabbit hunting instead. We are not supposed to fish our lease till Feb. 1 anyway. I have a couple of buddies who have camps right across from lake Theriot in Marmande's canal.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:34 pm to tgrbaitn08
The area behind the gate is all private property.
Look, I agree with you on most points and I understand where you're coming from. The point I'm trying to make is that private landowners shouldn't be blocking main areas of traffic. If someone has to go through your land to access public waters, it shouldn't be blocked off.
Judging by the picture you posted, you would be able to gate your property and not affect anyone, which is perfectly fine.
Look, I agree with you on most points and I understand where you're coming from. The point I'm trying to make is that private landowners shouldn't be blocking main areas of traffic. If someone has to go through your land to access public waters, it shouldn't be blocked off.
Judging by the picture you posted, you would be able to gate your property and not affect anyone, which is perfectly fine.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
I've got bolt cutters in my floating camp
quote:You're still using the water that I pay for.....and your argument is I can't use something I pay for?
Corkfather
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:36 pm to tgrbaitn08
I am sure it has been covered in this thread, but I find this very interesting. A couple of things on the legal front:
1. The United States, and all states in some form or fashion, has what's known as the "Doctrine of Prior Appropriation" which essentially means since the U.S. was here first - it makes claims to all NAVIGABLE waterways.
For instance, this is why the government controls (obviously) the Mississippi River, Lake Ponchartrain, etc.
2. Therefore, if it isn't a "navigable" waterway as defined by law then many are considered a private accessway. No different than a private road, street, or driveway - the adjoining landowners usually have control.
So on it's face, what the fisherman might be asking here is to turn private waterways into public. No different than taking your private street in your private subdivision and saying "hey, the truckers want to use it so we should make those roads public!"
Interesting discussion, that's for sure.
ETA: If this part has already been mentioned, my apologies to the great OT
1. The United States, and all states in some form or fashion, has what's known as the "Doctrine of Prior Appropriation" which essentially means since the U.S. was here first - it makes claims to all NAVIGABLE waterways.
For instance, this is why the government controls (obviously) the Mississippi River, Lake Ponchartrain, etc.
2. Therefore, if it isn't a "navigable" waterway as defined by law then many are considered a private accessway. No different than a private road, street, or driveway - the adjoining landowners usually have control.
So on it's face, what the fisherman might be asking here is to turn private waterways into public. No different than taking your private street in your private subdivision and saying "hey, the truckers want to use it so we should make those roads public!"
Interesting discussion, that's for sure.
ETA: If this part has already been mentioned, my apologies to the great OT
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:37 pm to musick
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:37 pm to Corkfather
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private landowners shouldn't be blocking main areas of traffic.
thats my point....im getting blasted for saying we should be able to block off dead end canals/one way in one way out canals...
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If someone has to go through your land to access public waters, it shouldn't be blocked off.
I dont have a problem with that either
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:38 pm to Corkfather
Good point Corko, that goes along with "ingress and egress" which essentially means IF your private waterway were the ONLY accessway then there are legal methods whereby other landowners might be able to get a servitude or right of way in order to use that "private" waterway for the purposes of reaching the nearest "public" or accessible one
Lots of legal hurdles here, I suppose, is the point
Lots of legal hurdles here, I suppose, is the point
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:38 pm to Corkfather
quote:the bolded word is the one that pisses me off the most.
If someone has to go through your land to access public waters, it shouldn't be blocked off.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:39 pm to tgrbaitn08
The water just south of falgout is gated....upper end of dear bayou. Yall ever fished that? i did once and didn't think i would be that impressed until I caught a 5 lb trout
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