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re: Louisiana bill would name Bible as official state book

Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:13 pm to
Oh well! Here we go again! Gang up on the Christian. Maybe some day we'll get as much respect as the dog a cop shot. BTW, which is lower to you guys, a Christian or a cop that shot a dog?

You get to hate me double. I'm a Christian AND I've shot quiet a few dogs over the years.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Oh well! Here we go again! Gang up on the Christian.
You brought it upon yourself, brother. Don't kick a hornets nest and then complain about getting stung.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37843 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:21 pm to
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Oh well! Here we go again! Gang up on the Christian


If you haven't noticed, there are a number of self-professed Christians in this thread. No one ganged up on them. People are 'ganging up' on you because you're a complete dunce.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148565 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:25 pm to
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I've shot quiet a few dogs over the years.

What Da Fuq?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20637 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:26 pm to
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revisit your judgmental attitude

You don't judge non-believers? Should I link your statements about Obama and godless leaders ruining countries?




One doesn't have anything to do with the other. You should understand that to mean you passed judgement but it appears you didn't know a lot about the subject. I'm suggesting you shoud revisit that decision. You may judge it to be a little different than you first thought.

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You don't judge non-believers?


No, I don't judge them. Anything I say about non-believers comes directly out of the bible. In fact the bible warns me against judging others as to hell or heaven. That's above my pay grade.

I am allowed to judge other peoples actions. I can decide right from wrong. I can guess who is a believer and who is not. Labeling you guys is a guess. Only you know for sure. You tell me you are an atheist and I can repeat what Jesus says your fate is. If you don't like it take it up with Him.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20637 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:34 pm to
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You brought it upon yourself, brother.


You are asking questions. I am just answering them. I think you brought it upon me.

Getting stung isn't a problem. The problem is I can't answer everyone. I have to type with one hand since that is all I have. Long honest answers take a lot of time. Problem number 2 is people with silly emoticon or ignorant 3 word replies. Those serve no useful purpose. A person should make some kind of useful reply.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:34 pm to
I've always wanted to ask this question to a truly devout Christian. What makes you believe Christianity is the correct religion, as opposed to the thousands of other belief systems?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20637 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 10:42 pm to
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What makes you believe Christianity is the correct religion, as opposed to the thousands of other belief systems?


That takes more words than I can type tonight. Each religion has a different answer. I know nothing at all about any but the most main stream religions. Generally speaking though I have looked into 3 others to some extent and could not find what I needed to convince me I should believe in them. I wish I could do a better job of this. It is a discussion that would take a while even if it were face to face.
Posted by Steely Don
Member since Oct 2007
410 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:11 pm to
Your religion is based on a girl who fricked a guy, got pregnant and said it was god. Roll tide.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83272 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:04 am to
As it pertains strictly to Biblical-era Jews, Redbone might be right about slavery. I really don't know.

Posted by brbowhunter
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2013
851 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:29 am to
the problem is people read the bible and dont take it literally. they make it fit anything they think it should be. which is complete horse shite.


its just a book nothing more. its not a way to live life. you have to be completely stupid to believe it and all the nonsense it brings. plus its what you grow up around. if you grew up around islam you would be islamic. its just the way it is if you are a bullshite believer.
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:09 am to
What about those who grew up around a religion and ended up in another religion?

One decent reason to believe, but will not convince people(as it is God who brings someone to faith) are the prophesies that were fulfilled. Hundreds of them were fulfilled in just Jesus' birth alone.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 3:12 am
Posted by Ford Frenzy
337 posts
Member since Aug 2010
6878 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 5:00 am to
Clicked on this thread expecting lots of butthurt, wasn't disappointed
Posted by jdd267
Jennings, La
Member since Sep 2012
311 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:48 am to
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Some guy kinda started it when he said this would start us down a road to becoming a Christian nation. People suck at history. We were already there and atheists started us down the road. Look at the sorry assed leaders they have given us in the last 100 years. Lots of bad ones. You paying your FICA I hope.


I am a Christian. I believe wholeheartedly that Christ is Lord and Saviour. Having said that, there are a few posters who only accept partial history when it comes to relgion in this country.

The founding fathers did not want to mix religion and government, but at the same time did not want to limit religious freedom. If an individual wanted to profess himself a Christian, he was free to do that. This freedom also applied to Muslims (Mohometans),Buddhism, or atheism. The government never endorsed Christianity as a national religion. Thomas Jefferson, in particular was a deist who cut out all references to Christ's deity from his Bible, still known as the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson once said "But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." Most of the founding fathers referred to "Providence" when speaking of religion, and not so much to Christianity. You are in error to proclaim the founding fathers promoted Christianity at the federal level. Privately, there were some believers, but most were diests. I could go on and on. The best thing one could do, is research for yourself.

As for my own opinion, it's a bad idea. God bless you all and Happy Easter !
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20637 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:23 pm to
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You are in error to proclaim the founding fathers promoted Christianity at the federal level.


If you have read this thread you would have seen an entry where I wrote that 52 of the 55 writers of the constitution were members of a Christian church. Only one claimed to be a deist. I did research this for myself and have found this in several places. Now keeping this in mind I would direct your attention to each of us as an individual are influenced by our surroundings, what we have learned, etc. As such anything we think, write, do are influenced by this. That being said it is easily provable that 52 of 55 people that attended Christian churches could only write a document that was influenced by their religious surroundings. THIS is provable by dissecting the Constitution.

Additionally, NOT forcing people to be members of a religion is basic to the Christian religion, is it not. That should be proof enough to you that they DID use the bible as their rule and guide.

I maintain that the earliest leaders ruled using Christian morality as their guide. As such I maintain that they started this nation off in the right direction. The proof is to look where we are now, the greatest nation ever ... by far, leading the way in so many areas. BUT ....


I have written a lot in this thread. A lot has been discussion that was off topic. Most people have not read it all or did not understand. The only difference between myself and some of you is I am pretty much up on current events and the state of the union ... the ugly side that Fox and most other mainstream news outlets don't cover.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20637 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:25 pm to
Additionally I thank the admins for allowing this and other religious threads to continue. Discussions such as this are no different than a cop shooting a dog or Miley Cyrus' latest show. And poor Kate Upton.....
Posted by jdd267
Jennings, La
Member since Sep 2012
311 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:03 pm to
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If you have read this thread you would have seen an entry where I wrote that 52 of the 55 writers of the constitution were members of a Christian church. Only one claimed to be a deist. I did research this for myself and have found this in several places. Now keeping this in mind I would direct your attention to each of us as an individual are influenced by our surroundings, what we have learned, etc. As such anything we think, write, do are influenced by this. That being said it is easily provable that 52 of 55 people that attended Christian churches could only write a document that was influenced by their religious surroundings. THIS is provable by dissecting the Constitution.


i agree, in their private lives, many may have attended a Christian church. but check historical documents. most of these guys were diests. Doesnt Obama attend a Christian church ?

the founders painstakingly went out of their way to ensure that religious belief was not to be a litmus test for citizenship or holding office.

They truly believed in an individuals freedom of religion or freedom from it. Personally , each individual had choice of conscience. this was not to be mandated by government in any way shape or form...period

i actually agree with much of what u say, but to say that the founding fathers would have been in favor of naming the bible a "national book" is false, or else they would have done so
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:06 pm to
Old testament? new testament? Both?

English or Francais?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:13 pm to
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Getting stung isn't a problem. The problem is I can't answer everyone. I have to type with one hand since that is all I have. Long honest answers take a lot of time. Problem number 2 is people with silly emoticon or ignorant 3 word replies. Those serve no useful purpose. A person should make some kind of useful reply.


God wouldn't give you a challenge you can't handle.
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