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re: Louisiana bankers see few parallels between Silicon Valley Bank collapse, local market

Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:58 am to
Posted by Tigers2010a
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:58 am to
How about credit unions? Are they at risk?
Posted by MarsellusWallace
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Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 11:59 am to
The underlying types of businesses those banks catered to had nothing to do with their collapse. Bad duration management without rates hedging brought the bank to its knees. Big difference. This can happen at a local bank with normal small business clients.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11169 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:55 pm to
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If you went over the 250000 fdic limit you frick yourself


You clowns show such fricking ignorance it’s sad. No business that processes payroll in the millions per month is going to have 30 accounts with 250k per account

FDIC limit is per depositor, per account per institution. Not per account
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 1:01 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11169 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 12:56 pm to
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This is real life not some made up land. Life isn't fair. Make better choices with your money. Did you never learn how banks work?


Dipshits like you would be crying fowl if Regions or hancock whitney went under
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:14 pm to
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You clowns show such fricking ignorance it’s sad. No business that processes payroll in the millions per month is going to have 30 accounts with 250k per account

These must be a bunch of accounts who want to go work for Exxon to help them manage the 100,000+ accounts they would need.

Let's go a little deeper to illustrate the giant pain in the arse this would create. Not just for giant corporations, but many small local businesses.

The median US worker pay for 2021 was about $70k. Let's bump that to $84k once you throw in 20% for benefits and other payroll type processing needs. If you pay twice a month, that's $3500 per worker. Your $250k gets you to 71 employees if all earn the median and that's just for payroll. You need a new account to do 72-143, and on and on. How many more accounts and accountants would a medium sized company need to manage that? How does that impact their SGA? Who ends up paying for that?
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11169 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:42 pm to
These posters are fricking retarded when it comes to banking and business. I’m so damn tired of the frick the rich and corporations bullshite. These companies trusted a bank just like we all do. We shouldn’t say frick them because the bank failed. I can guarantee none of these fricks know how their banks money is invested.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 1:54 pm to
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These posters are fricking retarded when it comes to banking and business. I’m so damn tired of the frick the rich and corporations bullshite. These companies trusted a bank just like we all do. We shouldn’t say frick them because the bank failed. I can guarantee none of these fricks know how their banks money is invested.

Exactly. And they just assume this is a bunch of VC/PE/Tech bro personal money. They don't understand that their pension, retirement, insurance money is in this.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 2:18 pm to
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No business that processes payroll in the millions per month is going to have 30 accounts with 250k per account


A business with payrolls that big should have accountants and lawyers that know better than to do business with banks that have risky liabilities like SVB.
Posted by StrikeIndicator
Sec. 419
Member since May 2019
992 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 2:22 pm to
Yes sir. You nailed it on the head
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 2:28 pm to
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A business with payrolls that big should have accountants and lawyers that know better than to do business with banks that have risky liabilities like SVB.

I never knew how many of y’all love stacking SGA on medium sized companies. It’s truly shocking.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6389 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 2:59 pm to
For once it pays to be low tech
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:00 pm to
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For once it pays to be low tech

I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but SVBs technology made the cash run possible. They were incredibly easy to transact with and it was a big reason they were what they were.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11169 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:03 pm to
Risky liabilities? They invested in treasury bonds for christs sake
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
6540 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:08 pm to
I believe he was referring to SVB’s risky, new tech investments (allegedly) not their ease of banking
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 3:09 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11169 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:09 pm to
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SVB’s risky, new tech investments- not their ease of banking.


Not really what caused the issue
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
6540 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:10 pm to
I don’t know. I don’t have a dog in this fight. I was just clarifying the post.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 3:22 pm to
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I believe he was referring to SVB’s risky, new tech investments (allegedly) not their ease of banking

I know. It's why i started the post the way I did. But it's a relevant point considering how all this went down.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76603 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 4:03 pm to
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FDIC limit is per depositor, per account per institution. Not per account
Scruffy isn’t a bank expert in any way.

Is there a limit on FDIC protections of businesses, like you see with individuals?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11169 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 4:41 pm to
No, there is no discrimination on who the depositor is. It’s 250k period
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62779 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 5:30 pm to
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You can’t frick over the depositors because of the banks investment choices


That's for bankruptcy courts to decide.
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