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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:48 pm to OleVaught14
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:48 pm to OleVaught14
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Russia's unwillingness to negotiate peace in good faith?
According to Lindsey Graham and Dick Blumenthal?
If Trump starts listening to those Warmongers then I think he will be highly disappointed and the War will not end
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:50 pm to Auburn1968
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What they really need is mercenary F16 pilots and contract ground crews along with a few hundred F16's. There are something like a little over 4500 F16's in active duty around the world with many of them being slated for replacement with F35's.
Stupidity in text form
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:56 pm to John Barron
Ukraine is being pulled deeper and deeper into a demographic hole.
Thus, in 2024, only 176 thousand children were born, while over 495 thousand people died - the death rate exceeded the birth rate three times.
Moreover, according to the Ministry of Justice, 2024 was a record year for the number of divorces. During the year, 34.29 thousand marriage dissolutions were registered, which is 42.2% more than in 2023. At the same time, the number of marriages decreased by 19.3% - only 150.21 thousand marriages were concluded in 2024.
There is nothing surprising in the current situation. Men are being mobilized (many are hiding or are already "on the front lines"), women are leaving abroad with their children, families are living at a distance, and returning to their previous lives is impossible for many. The economic factor is aggravating the situation. The average salary has fallen to the level of 2018, almost 70% of Ukrainians work in the "gray" market and do not have financial stability.
And the situation will only get worse. Demographers predict that due to war, migration and the economic crisis, up to 50% of Ukrainian families may break up in the next 5 years. This means that the family crisis will lead to even deeper problems: a further decline in the birth rate, emigration of young people and an acceleration of the demographic decline. That is, in the most pessimistic scenario, in the future, Ukraine will be reduced to nothing but a name, and its people will become small and nomadic."
Thus, in 2024, only 176 thousand children were born, while over 495 thousand people died - the death rate exceeded the birth rate three times.
Moreover, according to the Ministry of Justice, 2024 was a record year for the number of divorces. During the year, 34.29 thousand marriage dissolutions were registered, which is 42.2% more than in 2023. At the same time, the number of marriages decreased by 19.3% - only 150.21 thousand marriages were concluded in 2024.
There is nothing surprising in the current situation. Men are being mobilized (many are hiding or are already "on the front lines"), women are leaving abroad with their children, families are living at a distance, and returning to their previous lives is impossible for many. The economic factor is aggravating the situation. The average salary has fallen to the level of 2018, almost 70% of Ukrainians work in the "gray" market and do not have financial stability.
And the situation will only get worse. Demographers predict that due to war, migration and the economic crisis, up to 50% of Ukrainian families may break up in the next 5 years. This means that the family crisis will lead to even deeper problems: a further decline in the birth rate, emigration of young people and an acceleration of the demographic decline. That is, in the most pessimistic scenario, in the future, Ukraine will be reduced to nothing but a name, and its people will become small and nomadic."
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:02 pm to John Barron
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According to Lindsey Graham and Dick Blumenthal? If Trump starts listening to those Warmongers then I think he will be highly disappointed and the War will not end
According to Trump. Today. So to be clear, your current stance is Russia is willing to agree to peace but Ukraine and the US are not? Putin wants peace and Trump doesn't?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:15 pm to OleVaught14
He just wants to crow about Russia capturing territory which is enough and looks to be shaded by Dolly Parton's tits.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:24 pm to OleVaught14
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So to be clear,
Russia already put forth their terms for peace.
1. No NATO
2. Recognize 4 oblast that Ukraine has already lost 75% or more as Russian Territory
3. Recognize Crimea as Russian Territory
Trump said Zelensky was going to have to do this. Then Zelensky refused. Last time I checked if you lose Territory on the battlefield you don't get to demand it back. Zelensky is about to lose more Territory if he doesn't accept the Peace Deal
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:26 pm to John Barron
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Russia already put forth their terms for peace.
So Trump's frustration today is:
(1) Trump unwilling to accept the situation; or
(2)Ukraine unwilling to accept the situation?
If (2), why is Trump frustrated with Russia?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:37 pm to OleVaught14
Trump's frustration is he told Zelensky what he was going to have to do and Zelensky told him to frick off. If you are asking me why Trump allowed Zelensky to disrespect him in the Oval Office and then not tell him he is signing the Peace Agreement or he gets no more aid and Weapons going forward I don't know. He had Lindsey Graham even saying we don't know if we could do business with Zelensky anymore so at that point he had all the Leverage and failed to use it. So I think now that Trump failed to get Zelensky to sign the Peace agreement that Witkoff and Russia negotiated he is now turning his frustrations to Russia and Putin
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:39 pm to John Barron
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Trump's frustration is he told Zelensky what he was going to have to do and Zelensky told him to frick off. If you are asking me why Trump allowed Zelensky to disrespect him in the Oval Office and then not tell him he is signing the Peace Agreement or he gets no more aid and Weapons going forward I don't know. He had Lindsey Graham even saying we don't know if we could do business with Zelensky anymore so at that point he had all the Leverage and failed to use it. So I think now that Trump failed to get Zelensky to sign the Peace agreement that Witkoff and Russia negotiated he is now turning his frustrations to Russia and Putin
No, I'm asking why Trump is frustrated with Putin aggression over the last 24 hours. Your view is because he is mad at Ukraine he is now made at Russia? So Trump is a dumbass is your official stance?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:51 pm to OleVaught14
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No, I'm asking why Trump is frustrated with Putin aggression over the last 24 hours
What aggression are you talking about in the last 24 hrs? There has been no aggression. Do you mean a weak ago after the Ukraine Drone attack on Moscow and on Putin’s Helicopter in Kursk? Yeah, Trump obviously was not told about it. He said he didn't know about it and that might be the reason for the retaliation.
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:59 pm to John Barron
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What aggression are you talking about in the last 24 hrs? There has been no aggression. Do you mean a weak ago after the Ukraine Drone attack on Moscow and on Putin’s Helicopter in Kursk? Yeah, Trump obviously was not told about it. He said he didn't know about it and that might be the reason for the retaliation.
So Trump not being aware of Russian misinformation 4 days ago is why he is complaining about Russian aggression today?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:08 pm to OleVaught14
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Russian misinformation
Incorrect. The Drone attack by Ukraine on Moscow was well documented on May 20-22. Even you NAFO trolls were bragging about it
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:13 pm to John Barron
That tweet proves a direct attack on Putin? And how does the explain Trump being mad at Putin 4 days later?
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:20 pm to OleVaught14
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how does the explain Trump being mad at Putin
Trump was mad about Putin bombing Kiev. Nobody told him about Ukraine’s Massive Drone attack on Moscow on May 20-22, that is the reason Putin responded with a attack on Kiev. If you are asking me why Trump's people around him didn't let him know you should probably be asking Trump's staff not me. I did start a thread on the political board, saying it was incompetence that his staff obviously didn't inform him about the Ukraine Drone attack
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:23 pm to John Barron
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Trump was mad about Putin bombing Kiev. Nobody told him about Ukraine’s Massive Drone attack on Moscow on May 20-22, that is the reason Putin responded with a attack on Kiev.
Your timing still makes no sense. Putin attacked Ukraine today, which is why Trump is mad. Even if Trump didn't know at the time, he certainly knows of Ukraine's attack today.
So, Trump knowing of both attacks today is mad at Putin and not Ukraine.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:31 pm to OleVaught14
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Putin attacked Ukraine today, which is why Trump is mad
Incorrect. Trump was referring to the big missile attack on Kiev which was on May 24. This was retaliation for the May 20-22 drone attack on Moscow. Do you see the date of this video? Its May 25, a day after the Russian missile attack. I don't mind having a conversation with you but you don't have basic facts right. There was no attack on Kiev today. Come back when you at least have the basic facts
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:35 pm to John Barron
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U.S. President Donald Trump said on May 30 that he was "very surprised" at Russian attacks on Ukrainian cities amid ongoing peace negotiations with Kyiv.
"I've gotten to see things I was very surprised at. Rockets being shot into cities like Kyiv during a negotiation that was maybe very close to ending," Trump said during a news conference in the Oval Office.
"All of a sudden rockets got shot into a couple of cities and people died. I saw thing I was surprised at and I don't like being surprised, so I'm very disappointed in that way," Trump added.
His quote from today. Please let me know when you have basic facts.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:42 pm to OleVaught14
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His quote from today. Please let me know when you have basic facts.
His quote says nothing about Russia attacking Kiev today. There was no missile attack on Kiev today. He was referring to the attack on Kiev on May 24th. That is why he was on video the next day May 25th complaining about it. You don't have basic facts right. Come back when you do.
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:44 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:46 pm to John Barron
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His quote says nothing about Russia attacking Kiev today. There was no missile attack on Kiev today. He was referring to the attack on Kiev on May 24th. That is why he was on video the next day May 25th complaining about it. You don't have basic facts right. Come back when you do.
I never said anything about an attack on Kiev today. I said Trump was upset about Russia attacks today - which he is given his quote from today (May 30).
All you do is claim misinformation and throw out falsehood. What I stated is fact, and you won't even admit to it.
Stand your ground and what you believe in. Specifically, what do you believe in? Be specific, have a backbone in your beliefs.
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