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KLM, Qantas Reportedly Flying Final 747 Flights This Weekend

Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:48 am
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:48 am
The writing has already been on the wall for the 747, but sad to see it happen this way with little fanfare for these two airlines.

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The global COVID-19 crisis has impacted aviation profoundly as airlines quickly adapt to crippling demand for air travel and a new reality of border restrictions, grounded jets and seeing sub 20 percent flight load factors. Over 85 airlines across the globe have announced a temporary halt in flight operations and almost all carriers are working to quickly downsize their fleet in an effort to run more efficient operations.

When looking at which aircraft to ground, the older, less fuel-efficient aircraft are always first on the list. American Airlines was quick to announce an accelerated retirement of its Boeing 757 and 767 fleet two weeks ago when airlines began responding to the coronavirus pandemic.

The Queen of the Skies was also quick to become a victim of the virus as well due to its passenger capacity, age and lackluster fuel efficiency levels compared to the newer Boeing 787 and Airbus A350. Multiple reports suggest that this weekend will mark the final passenger flights of the Boeing 747-400 for both KLM and Qantas. Both airlines have had to vastly reduce capacity in an effort to adapt to the dynamic situation the coronavirus has created for the aviation industry.
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KLM initially expected to fly its final passenger 747 flight between New York-JFK and Amsterdam on Jan. 3, 2021. That date, however, has been brought forward over eight months with the final flight expected to touchdown at Amsterdam Schiphol on Sunday, March 29.
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Qantas is also expected to stop flying the 747-400 after this weekend. VH-OEH, one of the carrier’s final five 747s performed a flyover of the Sydney Harbor before touching down at Sydney International Airport on March 26.


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Qantas Boeing 747-400ER VH-OEE operating as QF28 from Santiago to Sydney passes over Sydney Harbour at 2,100ft before landing this afternoon. It may be the last ever commercial Qantas Boeing 747 service.




Posted by uway
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:50 am to
It's the end of the world as we know it, and 1% died.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:54 am to
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and 1% died.



I agree with you, and while the 747 will always be the king, the A350, 787, and A380 are far superior passenger aircraft at this point.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:55 am to
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while the 747 will always be the king
*Queen
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A380 are far superior passenger aircraft
A380 is being phased out for the same reason as 747.

LINK LINK

The main reason being that the hub-and-spoke model did not pan out.

LINK

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The A380 was designed to serve large hubs in megacities, “but the markets are different now,” said Button. “There are a lot of gateways into America, and ditto when you fly to Europe or the Middle East, or from the Middle East to Asia. It’s not all going to the major hubs anymore. The world has changed quite considerably and that’s what Boeing was actually banking on and that’s what their forecasts told them would happen. Airbus didn’t get the forecast right.”

While Airbus was banking on the hub-and-spoke model for the A380, the aircraft made its market touchdown at a time “when Open Skies began to kick off,” said Clark. Under Open Skies agreements, countries agree to open up their airspace to market dynamics as opposed to trying to control the entry, routing, landings and takeoffs based on political allocations, he explained. Europe, the U.S. and many other countries are now in the Open Skies environment, he pointed out. “That was a political [development] that I think Boeing was anticipating. Airbus, I think, anticipated the wrong way, and that was one of the nails that went into the coffin of the A380.”

The industry is under a lot of pressure to get away from the hub-and-spoke model “because of the continued increase in passenger traffic of more than 5% per year,” Clark added. “JFK, Philadelphia and Logan [in Boston] can only take so many landings per day per day, so you need to find other locations that are more convenient to passengers and have point-to-point service.”
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 11:59 am
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:02 pm to
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted by phil good
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:12 pm to
If there weren’t travel bans, I’d book the last flight on the 747 to Amsterdam.
Posted by tigahfan747
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:15 pm to
Will always love the Queen of the Skies. Will remain my favorite aircraft for as long as I live. Hell, part of its name is in my User
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Will always love the Queen of the Skies. Will remain my favorite aircraft for as long as I live.
Ditto.

Assuming you have already read this? Great book.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:48 pm to
Ya that book is amazing. Read it in college while i was in aerospace engineering
Posted by Weaver
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:53 pm to
Qantas Never Crashed #Rainman

Posted by tigahfan747
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:13 pm to
Great read!
Posted by jfturner212
1176 Bob Pettit Boulevard
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:26 pm to
In semi related news.. saw the 777X cruise over my backyard the other day.

This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:59 pm to
Long live the 737 Max!
Posted by Legion of Doom
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:17 pm to
Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone know what happened to 777tiger? I haven’t seen him post in some time. He usually posted frequently. He’d be all up in this thread.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:52 pm to
There was never going to be a stable enough worldwide air travel market to support a lot of A380s. I don't know what Airbus was thinking. It's a great aircraft, but only suitable to operate routes from about 20 airports on the globe. That's not nearly enough airframes to cover the costs of development and production.
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