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re: Kaci Hickox (Ebola nurse) is a real piece of work

Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:16 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:16 am to
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so a police state intervention is necessary.

against a highly infectious disease with a high mortality rate? it's likely justified

this is one area that clearly puts me in the "libertarian" group and not the "anarchist" group

this is also likely initial shock and awe to warn others coming back, to decrease teh likelihood of people from those areas coming back to the US

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The organizations also have protocols for their ppl to follow

and what happens if this doesn't work properly? like the Dr in NYC (who was also caught lying his arse off) ?

again, that's the problem: self-regulation. it's clear right now that people aren't going to properly self-regulate themselves

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Mentally ill patients pose a risk to the public as well as themselves.

often no more than an asymptomatic ebola patient

the potential risk is the issue, not the eminent risk

Posted by Broke
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:17 am to
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You big government liberals are fricking retarded.


Did you just call me a big government lib? Lol
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:18 am to
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and what happens if this doesn't work properly? like the Dr in NYC (who was also caught lying his arse off) ?

again, that's the problem: self-regulation. it's clear right now that people aren't going to properly self-regulate themselves
Has he infected anyone??? Of course we won't know that for a couple weeks but if the answer is no then he did properly self regulate themselves. Just like the nurses. They self-regulated and didn't infect anyone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:19 am to
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They are still monitoring but they aren't quarantined.

and this may prove to be effective, and then it will become the standard
Posted by FT
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:22 am to
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Did you just call me a big government lib? Lol
Do you want the government illegally forcing someone into confinement?
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:22 am to
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They are still monitoring but they aren't quarantined.

Because they haven't shown signs of symptoms.

Hickox had a 101 fever when she returned from Ebola-ravaged Sierra Leone. Coincidence? Maybe, but it is better to be safe than sorry.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:22 am to
it has been proven effective. People have been doing it since this outbreak started in March.
Posted by LSUnation78
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:26 am to
Ok fine, let her walk around with one condition/understanding. She comes out of pocket for every penny spent to decontaminate her home, the ambulance that picks her up, and the hospital where she is treated... in addition to paying for every penny of her hospital bills and those of ANYONE she infects.

The state tried to put her somewhere easily decontaminated and limit her contact with others. She wants to go on the today show and parade around, put the bill on her then.

This of course assumes she does contract it, which she very well may not. But having the possibility of being liable for a few million dollars might make these idiots actually give a shite.
Posted by White Shadeaux
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:29 am to
Kaci Hickox is a filthy piece of shite.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:31 am to
I don't know the laws of Maine, but in the case of a potential emergency, generally, yes. IWNHI
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:31 am to
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Hickox had a 101 fever when she returned from Ebola-ravaged Sierra Leone


But she was stressed out and flushed bro.
Posted by Solicitor
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:34 am to
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Kaci Hickox is a filthy piece of shite.


Agreed. I would go further and say that if she should she infect someone, she's no better than the other Casey. Casey Anthony that is.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:34 am to
She was tested for the virus and it came back negative... Why would she need to be in quarantine?

I would say quarantine her if she's showing signs/symptoms of it, but she isn't showing any signs. She should be allowed to go free.

For the people wanting to lock her in a tent for 21 days, ask yourself how you would fee if she was found to be innocent of a crime but had to remain locked up for 21 days after?
Posted by lsu480
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:35 am to
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Did you just call me a big government lib? Lol



He shouldn't have because liberals are being way more rational when it comes to Ebola, even Obama is being rational. There is ZERO reason for Americans on US soil to worry about Ebola. Anyone that does worry either doesn't understand the disease or is just looking for an excuse to worry.
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
65359 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:36 am to
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Do you want the government illegally forcing someone into confinement?


SFP just said there are laws specifically for this. Hence not illegal. And yes, yes I do. Confine that filthy tramp.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:37 am to
i am lol'ing at liberals complaining about government overreach with this ebola stuff
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:38 am to
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SFP just said there are laws specifically for this. Hence not illegal. And yes, yes I do. Confine that filthy tramp.




Idiot
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65359 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:39 am to
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i am lol'ing at liberals complaining about government overreach with this ebola stuff


This is like fricking bizarro world. I'm freaking out
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466895 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:40 am to
things like teh police, CDC, etc are why i can't go full on anarchist. that doesn't mean that they can't go too far, obviously

this quarantine shite may turn out to be too much, but it may not. that's part of the whole "states are experiments" stuff
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4024 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:42 am to
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She was tested for the virus and it came back negative... Why would she need to be in quarantine? I would say quarantine her if she's showing signs/symptoms of it, but she isn't showing any signs. She should be allowed to go free.

I would understand and comply. Simple as that. People keep riding the, "She tested negative. Leave her alone unless she shows symptoms." It's not like there's a precise switch on the virus going contagious. How many times have all of us felt like crap for hours or days before we even bothered to admit we were sick or check to see if we have a fever? As individuals we are self-absorbed. You cannot allow self-monitoring for this very reason.

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For the people wanting to lock her in a tent for 21 days, ask yourself how you would fee if she was found to be innocent of a crime but had to remain locked up for 21 days after?
Apples to olives. Good grief.
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