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re: Just Saw EV CAR on a tow truck getting charged at a charging station
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:56 pm to i am dan
Posted on 10/15/23 at 2:56 pm to i am dan
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Easier to grab a 5 gallon gas can rather than a tow truck if you run out of energy tho.
I find it easier to just use the gauges included with the vehicle regardless of how it's powered.
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:09 pm to Korkstand
Isn't the OP referring to an electric car that ran out of power and needed a tow?
Lecture that person, not me.
I just stated a logical fact. Argue with logic if you want.
I have had a gas gauge in a company truck misread by a qtr of a tank once or twice. Stuff happens I guess.
Lecture that person, not me.
I just stated a logical fact. Argue with logic if you want.
I have had a gas gauge in a company truck misread by a qtr of a tank once or twice. Stuff happens I guess.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:13 pm to shel311
Can I Chaffee an electrical vehicle in less that 10 in less that 7 minute? Nope
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:26 pm to i am dan
quote:Not lecturing, just stating a logical fact like you.
Isn't the OP referring to an electric car that ran out of power and needed a tow?
Lecture that person, not me.
I just stated a logical fact. Argue with logic if you want.
quote:Same here, 2002 Dakota showed 1/4 tank when it was slap empty.
I have had a gas gauge in a company truck misread by a qtr of a tank once or twice. Stuff happens.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:27 pm to ugasickem
quote:I'd put money that you can't chaffee any vehicle in less that 10 in less that 7 minute period
Can I Chaffee an electrical vehicle in less that 10 in less that 7 minute? Nope
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:39 pm to Bow dude72
It happens and ICE and EV's all break.
They are man made.
I have friends with EV's and love them for their use running around town.
They also have ICE in their tow vehicles for hauling their boats.
Right now I personally think for EV to go mainstream or become accepted the price has to be closer to an ICE with similar options.
They are man made.
I have friends with EV's and love them for their use running around town.
They also have ICE in their tow vehicles for hauling their boats.
Right now I personally think for EV to go mainstream or become accepted the price has to be closer to an ICE with similar options.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:53 pm to johnnyrocket
I would think EV for local delivery and service calls make the most sense. Either the ROI is long or just some companies are afraid to be the first to risk it.
Recharge period of 7-10hrs, off-peak, and fewer mechanical issues. Maybe entry cost is prohibitive in a way.
Recharge period of 7-10hrs, off-peak, and fewer mechanical issues. Maybe entry cost is prohibitive in a way.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:01 pm to fightin tigers
I agree that if they could make enough to fill a national fleet order for auto parts stores delivery trucks, florist, companies that check or read utilities, etc would probably benefit from these vehicles.
Big issue is the stores would have to put in charging stations which they could probably do that when they remodel or build new stores.
EV going to be similar to battery powered drills and power tools.
It will take years for the shift to happen while the products get better and have more driving range.
Big issue is the stores would have to put in charging stations which they could probably do that when they remodel or build new stores.
EV going to be similar to battery powered drills and power tools.
It will take years for the shift to happen while the products get better and have more driving range.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:04 pm to fightin tigers
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I would think EV for local delivery and service calls make the most sense. Either the ROI is long or just some companies are afraid to be the first to risk it.
They work really well a lot of fleet needs. Biggest issue is perception and the same misunderstood talking points we see in most EV threads. When you look at it they work incredibly well for many applications. I’m seeing a lot more fleets interested in doing big lease deals to start converting. One I used to work with does work for utility companies and they were spending 100k a week in excessive idling fuel. Obviously that combined with keeping your crews from blowing an hour a day at gas stations and inevitably them running into someone in the parking lot is some baked in inefficiency that EVs can help with.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:59 pm to ugasickem
quote:Do what now?
Can I Chaffee an electrical vehicle in less that 10 in less that 7 minute?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:15 pm to jmarto1
No free energy. The charge comes at the price of extra resistance on the tow truck. Therefore, if your argument is against fossil fuels, you are essentially using a diesel tow truck as a generator. It also does not solve the problem of needing the tow in the first place.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:42 pm to Korkstand
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I find it easier to just use the gauges included with the vehicle regardless of how it's powered.
Like fuel gauges don't malfunction or EV's suddenly drop in estimated range.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:44 pm to Clames
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Like fuel gauges don't malfunction
This happen a lot to you?
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or EV's suddenly drop in estimated range.
Are there a lot.of reports of range going from 150mi to 0 in the blink of an eye?
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:52 pm to Korkstand
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I think about it like this: what if you had a gas pump at home? Yeah it's pretty slow, pumps maybe 1 gallon per hour, but all you have to do is put the nozzle in when you park at night and by morning you have a full tank.
The obvious problem with this argument is that with ICE vehicles, a "full charge" is only minutes away and only takes minutes to complete. With an EV, you pretty much have to plug in at home, there's no drive a few blocks to a system that can charge you in 5 minutes on your way to work. You see, I don't have to give a shite about remembering to plug my vehicles in when I get home, there are two gas stations within an incredibly short drive of my house. I run my DTE down to 10 miles and it's a non-issue from my house.
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Who wouldn't want that?
People that prefer the convenience and range of an ICE vehicle.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:56 pm to Clames
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. I run my DTE down to 10 miles and it's a non-issue from my house.
Ah, see why you always run out of gas.
You should spend a minute planning. Would solve a lot of your problems.
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non-issue from my house
Imagine if the gas station was at your house. You would have even fewer problems running out of gas.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:57 pm to fightin tigers
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This happen a lot to you?
Nope, but it does happen.
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Are there a lot.of reports of range going from 150mi to 0 in the blink of an eye?
Yes, lots of threads on various EV forums of owners seeing sudden drops in the estimated range remaining from when they left home. Bad cells and other things that effect the SOC that the car reports to the owner such that the miles availble suddenly become not so much.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:00 pm to Clames
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seeing sudden drops in the estimated range remaining from when they left home.
I think you are overblowing the problem. There are no doubt issues with reduced range in cold weather or towing. Those usually present as burning through power at a faster rate and not huge reductions in mileage all at once.
Your other point on bad cells is correct, but that is no different than an ICE failure of a fuel pump or injectors. It is a failure and not an inherent fault.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:01 pm to Clames
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Like fuel gauges don't malfunction
Happened to me once in my life. Has never happened to most probably. Regardless it's not something to concern oneself with, or to choose an inferior vehicle in preparation for this rare event.
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or EV's suddenly drop in estimated range.
Got any data here?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:01 pm to fightin tigers
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Ah, see why you always run out of gas.
See why you lack the honesty and intelligence to engage this topic.
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Imagine if the gas station was at your house. You would have even fewer problems running out of gas.
Imagine if I actually had such a problem. Also imagine if things like this existed:
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:03 pm to fightin tigers
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It is a failure and not an inherent fault.
A failure that EV homers pretend doesn't exist. The inherent fault is absolutely a range and energy density problem.
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