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re: Joran van der Sloot smashed Natalee Holloway’s head, threw her in ocean for refusing sex

Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15746 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:35 pm to
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“I’ve given me heart over to Jesus Christ.”

The main flaw in Christianity. Live a terrible life and then repent.
He thinks he’s gonna get off Scot free in the afterlife now. I hope hell awaits him (if it’s real).
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4307 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Greta Van Sustren did nightly specials about this


Her mouth whilst speaking might be one of the most irrational things that I get mad about
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:41 pm to
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I'm also curious what he did with the cinderblock, which would've been covered in evidence.

In the ocean?

Evidence gone in minutes.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:42 pm to
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If it was a falling tide her blood any other evidence would've remained on the sand for at least 6 hours for the police and dogs to find.


If the police and dogs were even there 6 hours later. By all accounts the local cop investigation out of the gate was a huge boondoggle.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34849 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:43 pm to
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What about the blood on the sand?
I would imagine it would be pretty easy to get rid of bloody sand right by an ocean
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79978 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:46 pm to
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The main flaw in Christianity. Live a terrible life and then repent.


It has to be true repentance.

God knows what’s in everyone’s heart.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:47 pm to
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Her mouth whilst speaking might be one of the most irrational things that I get mad about



Unwatchable

Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6771 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Tide


There was not tide or current near where he supposedly disposed of her body.

He needs a boat to make his story believable.

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4307 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:50 pm to
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Unwatchable


Im serious.

100% unwatchable for me. I tried so many times over the years. Cant do it. Still cant understand how she got hired to talk on tv.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34849 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:53 pm to
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I’m guessing he left out the part where he raped her. I am skeptical he wouldn’t have done that before killing her.


There is almost no way he didn't after he killed her as well if this story is true
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:54 pm to
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There was not tide or current near where he supposedly disposed of her body.

He needs a boat to make his story believable.


1.5 (.5m) ft fluctuation in tide in Aruba. Places like Orange Beach, AL are what, 2 ft, 2.5 ft?

They definitely have tide. I've vacationed and fished there.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:55 pm to
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100% unwatchable for me.


I agree.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:56 pm to
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There is almost no way he didn't after he killed her as well if this story is true



I'm guessing he raped her after he kicked her in the head and she was unconscious. Then killed her with the cinder block.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26668 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:18 pm to
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If you look at google maps and follow the walk between the fisherman wharf and the Marriott there is a pier that goes out about 120 yards.


Where was the blood trail?

By his own account, he bashed her skull in. Would have been a helluva mess. He had help.
Posted by Nativebullet
Natchez, MS
Member since Feb 2011
5138 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:21 pm to
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quote:
What about the blood on the sand?
I would imagine it would be pretty easy to get rid of bloody sand right by an ocean



he said he looked for a secluded spot before they reached her hotel, so he could try to do her. i imagine the death scene was not in the tides reach.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47475 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:25 pm to
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If they decide to charge him with murder in Aruba (I bet that will never happen) he will go to a better jail there than in Peru.


I read that the statute of limitations in Aruba is 12 years, so that ship likely sailed. I don't know if they could use his admission since I believe part of the deal was that he could not be convicted using that admission. I have no idea if that would hold up in Aruba.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13743 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:30 pm to
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he said he looked for a secluded spot before they reached her hotel, so he could try to do her. i imagine the death scene was not in the tides reach.


A lot of the beaches in Aruba, including the stretch of beach in front of Holloway's hotel, were covered in palm trees, tiki huts, etc. right near the water. In the middle of the night it would not be hard to be out of sight. I've been on the beach in the Panhandle and felt pretty damn hidden before.

Google Holiday Inn Sunspree Aruba
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Water
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
741 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:35 pm to
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He's killed two women that we know of. Any chance there were others before Natalee? Only he knows.


He was 17 when he killed Natalee so it’s less likely he had already killed. But his father was a judge and it’s very possible he was already a rapist at 17 and escalated to murder with Natalee.

After he murdered Flores, there were questions about the disappearances of two women in Bogota while he was there before he arrived in Peru later that month.

I don’t think Natalee and Stephanie are his only victims and possibly not even his only murdered victims.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98375 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:39 pm to
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Wouldn't she have to be taken out a little ways for her not to just wash right back up on the beach?



That kid on the booze cruise jumped overboard right in Nassau harbor and was never seen again.
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
2962 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 4:41 pm to
This is the guy Greta Van Sustren interviewed and proclaimed she thought he was innocent. Oh our wonderful media!
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