re: JBE suggests broad COVID vaccine mandates after FDA approval

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Um what? Florida is mandating you bake a cake for unvaxxed people

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back around the circle......Link?? oohh yea you dont have one because you are comparing 2 things that are not the same.

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In fact, the COVID vaccines in use now were ready to go in January 2020. This was the result of a challenge a few years ago for researchers to develop a vaccine technology that would be able to produce a vaccine within 16 weeks to a new virus. And about four or five different technologies won.

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How did they have a vaccine in January 2020 when they didn't have it sequenced until January 2020?

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In January 2020, when an RNA virus was identified as the etiologic agent of the disease soon to be named COVID-19, scientists immediately sequenced its genome.

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The answer is "they didn't have the vaccine 'ready to go' in January 2020." We know this because the very first PREPA declaration isn't even until March 13, 2020 LINK and that animal testing and Phase I human trials had an overlap. LINK

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Due to the urgent need for a vaccine in a surging pandemic, Pfizer and Moderna were given approval to simultaneously test their vaccines on animals while they were conducting Phase 1 trials on humans. The vaccines were tested on mice and macaques.

“They overlapped preclinical studies with the early phases of the trials,” said Dr. William Moss, executive director for the International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins University. “In fact one of the reasons we are even talking about vaccines now just 10 months later is that some of the phases in which vaccine development normally occurs were overlapped rather than done sequentially.”

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So the earliest they had a vaccine "ready to go" was February 2020. I mean... unless there is a method to create an mRNA vaccine without the genome sequencing or that sequencing is done at TV-drama speed and sequences were available around 1/1/2021.

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So, in fact, these vaccines have been approved with roughly the same amount of data that a vaccine is normally approved of.

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"Roughly". That's pretty subjective. It's also the problem.

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And these rare side effects that you see now, would have normally taken two or three years to appear and may not have been noticed at all.

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Rare side effects... thalidomide says "hi" (it had no negative effects in animal testing and was tested on humans for 7 years before getting approval in Europe) as does this

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NIH encourages researchers to investigate reported changes in menstruation after COVID-19 vaccination

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and this

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“Enlarged lymph nodes are visible as early as one day after vaccination, and they can remain enlarged for a month or more,”

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even though, prior to COVID the rule for swollen lymph node duration was this.

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Some swollen lymph nodes return to normal when the underlying condition, such as a minor infection, gets better. See your doctor if you're concerned or if your swollen lymph nodes... Continue to enlarge or have been present for two to four weeks

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So despite the claims of your copy/paste the vaccines have been developed quickly, especially when compared to the average timeframe for development. Even if we go off the January 2020 start date we're still under 2 years of this drug existing. There are no studies of long-term effects (see: "roughly") because the vaccines have existed for only a short time.

If you're so scared of getting something with a ~99% survival rate that you're willing to take an experimental drug, go for it.

You don't have the right to mandate I take it though.

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So if we put 200 vaccinated people in a room with a few Slope Sickness patients, we expect 100 of them to get infected? That doesn't make much of a case for getting the vaccine IMO

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You said NFL training camps...that's literally thousands of people...you said 65 infections.

So let's just say its 65 infections for 1000 vaccinated people. That percent is well within the stated efficacy. I'm for vaxx choice but your argument is bad.