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re: January 1, 2025: Multiple casualties on Bourbon Street after terrorist attack..
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:08 pm to N2cars
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:08 pm to N2cars
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I dont think there's any comparison in the two.
I'm not saying the extremists on both sides are comparable, just stating the fact that there are extremists on both sides that each side denounces or rolls their eyes at while claiming they're insane.
Obviously killing people because they're not like you in an attempt to create a global caliphate is not the same as calling someone retarded because they think IVF is going to result in a woman going to hell.
Edit: Let's not turn this into a religion thread, though. That's exactly how this thread gets deleted or anchored. Let's instead stick to the fact that a terror attack happened in our own back yard and the feds want us to believe the attacker was alone when it's so obvious he wasn't.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 2:13 pm
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:16 pm to TDsngumbo
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Let's not turn this into a religion thread, though. That's exactly how this thread gets deleted or anchored.
Agree
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Let's instead stick to the fact that a terror attack happened in our own back yard
Agree
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and the feds want us to believe the attacker was alone when it's so obvious he wasn't.
Annnddd we're back on conspiracy theories
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:20 pm to TDsngumbo
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Christianity has extremists just like Islam has extremists
Not on the same scale, Yes, there are Christian extremists but they are relatively rare and have not proven recently to be as idiotic as their brethren in Islam....they ain't strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up markets of flying jets into the side of buildings. It is as misguided to suggest that Christian extremists in 2025 are a comparable threat to Islamic extremists as it is to suggest all Muslims are extremists. I know several muslim families which means about 50-60 individuals, men and women, aged 12 - 65, all American's who have immigrated to the US since 9/11 or were born in the US. There is one of this group who seems like he could become a problem, a 15 year old boy who stays in trouble at school and is constantly "grounded" - kid ain't left the house in several months LOL. These people are not extremists anymore than the Baptists I know.....but there are far worse extremists in Islam than there is in christianity....pretending otherwise is simply wrong...
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:38 pm to CatfishJohn
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Annnddd we're back on conspiracy theories
I don't think it's far-fetched to assume he had assistance from accomplices. This man didn't radicalize himself, he had help from someone or something.
This man couldn't even burn down the place he was staying with gasoline but he was able to make these extremely rare and complex explosives alone? Someone taught him how to do that or outright sold the explosive to him.
To pretend otherwise is just foolish in my opinion. I know we all shite on the FBI all the time but they are the top law enforcement agency in the world and they have really good men and women working for them. I don't believe they truly think he acted alone. I believe reality is they know he didn't but just can't prove it yet so until then, there's no sense in worrying the public by continuing to say he had help when they don't have that help behind bars yet. Guarantee there's an all-out effort behind the scenes to find the people who helped him.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:49 pm to TDsngumbo
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This man couldn't even burn down the place he was staying with gasoline but he was able to make these extremely rare and complex explosives alone? Someone taught him how to do that or outright sold the explosive to him.
Explosives that didn't work. And all of that is on Google.
Sure, he wasn't radicalized himself, but the act of planning and executing terrorism could easily be by himself. We just don't know. Calling it "so obvious" is disingenuous. Is it possible? Sure, but we have no evidence available to us to show that at all yet and it's just as possible the heinous acts were lone wolf.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:06 pm to CatfishJohn
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Explosives that didn't work. And all of that is on Google. Sure, he wasn't radicalized himself, but the act of planning and executing terrorism could easily be by himself. We just don't know. Calling it "so obvious" is disingenuous. Is it possible? Sure, but we have no evidence available to us to show that at all yet and it's just as possible the heinous acts were lone wolf.
Yea, surely he had some folks - individual or community- stoking the fire to get him that hyped up…
But the actual act is such a cluster that I think it’s hard to say if he had any real help or was just using random online resources he stumbled across
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:09 pm to TDsngumbo
I think you may be a little 'off' here...i.e. for now, the FBI/justice dept. are FAR more focused on the Jan.6 protestors. That may well change somewhat come Jan.20....how much is hard to say right now. One things for sure...these 'agencies' have both been politically weaponized and it will take some time/effort to rectify this bull-s%$#!
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:24 pm to tickfawtiger
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:28 pm to Honkus
The Bech family appears to really be some good people.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:20 pm to TDsngumbo
They are truly some of the best.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:51 pm to TDsngumbo
They are good people
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:37 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:Then the question becomes does one side actually qualify as extremist.
I'm not saying the extremists on both sides are comparable
Seems that killing humans is not equal to NOT killing humans.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 5:02 am to CatfishJohn
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Annnddd we're back on conspiracy theories
Who did Jabber go visit while in Egypt for a month?
Where did he get the very rare precursor materials for his inoperable bombs?
None of those are conspiratorial, but part of the investigation wouldn’t you agree?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:27 am to idlewatcher
apparently he luckily used the wrong detonator for the high explosive material. he used a powder explosive detonator, so it didn't work.
these bombs could have killed hundreds more according to officials.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:28 am to idlewatcher
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Who did Jabber go visit while in Egypt for a month? Where did he get the very rare precursor materials for his inoperable bombs? None of those are conspiratorial, but part of the investigation wouldn’t you agree?
1) Egypt: fair question. Did he have plans there or was he visiting on his own? Obviously needs to be sorted out. He could have gone solo hoping that physical proximity would find support, he could’ve gone simply on a spiritual trip, he could’ve had a contact there who trained him. I think the first two more likely as this unfolds but who knows.
2) honest question: how rare are the materials? I saw some say never used in an attack before but maybe not super rare in their existence… I truly have no idea so not trying to argue here. Is the fact that it’s rare in attacks simply reflective of it being more complicated (which could be reflected in him totally messing up the execution)?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:32 am to idlewatcher
He was living in a mobile home north Houston and worked at Deloitte. The 2 don't jive.
He claimed to have financial woes with 3 divorces and child support. Yet he traveled internationally and rented expensive vehicles, air BnBs, bought meta sunglasses, guns, bomb ingredients, was seen and spoken to at a NOLA restaurant where he likely ate and/or drank.
Living in a cheap trailer to save $ to fund his terrorist mission?
He claimed to have financial woes with 3 divorces and child support. Yet he traveled internationally and rented expensive vehicles, air BnBs, bought meta sunglasses, guns, bomb ingredients, was seen and spoken to at a NOLA restaurant where he likely ate and/or drank.
Living in a cheap trailer to save $ to fund his terrorist mission?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:03 am to Red Stick Tigress
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He was living in a mobile home north Houston and worked at Deloitte. The 2 don't jive. He claimed to have financial woes with 3 divorces and child support. Yet he traveled internationally and rented expensive vehicles, air BnBs, bought meta sunglasses, guns, bomb ingredients, was seen and spoken to at a NOLA restaurant where he likely ate and/or drank.
Most of those are easy credit card swipes - especially if you have no intent to pay them off
For the housing- it’s possible it’s a combo of not being able to get a good credit check but also the privacy/community.
I think the question of who else lived there and what they knew is way more interesting than how did he pay for meta glasses, a flight and dinner
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:05 am to Mouth
Yikes- that’s an actual picture?
Did they say someone opened it and looked in or was that just early reporting chaos?
Did they say someone opened it and looked in or was that just early reporting chaos?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:06 am to NoSaint
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Yikes- that’s an actual picture?
Yes
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Did they say someone opened it and looked in or was that just early reporting chaos?
I don't know if anyone opened and looked at it but it is fact that someone pulled it about a block then left it at the corner of Orleans and Bourbon that night before abandoning it. FBI says this is why they initially thought someone else was involved but it turns out they were innocent.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:09 am to NoSaint
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honest question: how rare are the materials? I saw some say never used in an attack before but maybe not super rare in their existence… I truly have no idea so not trying to argue here. Is the fact that it’s rare in attacks simply reflective of it being more complicated (which could be reflected in him totally messing up the execution)?
I've read that the materials to make that type of explosive are pretty common but making it is still something that requires lots of skill and training apparently. It's super rare and has never been used in an European or American terrorist attack. The FBI has stated multiple times that the two bombs were fully functional and the only thing that saved us from a much higher death toll is the fact that he used the wrong type of detonator for them.
As others have stated, he didn't appear to be super smart (couldn't even burn down the home he was staying in using gasoline) so I lean towards someone teaching him how to make the explosive. Just a hunch, obviously.
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