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Italy 368 deaths in one day?

Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:06 pm to
It's evolving
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:06 pm to
This is the 368th thread about this today
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:12 pm to
This thing is contagious as shite and it’s super deadly to old people without proper medical care.

It’s also dangerous enough to enough young people that a good number of them still have to go to the hospital, taking up beds and resources and thus denying the old people proper medical care.

The ensuing death rate is the result
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 7:13 pm
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

This thing is contagious as shite and it’s super deadly to old people without proper medical care.

It’s also dangerous enough to enough young people that a good number of them still have to go to the hospital, taking up beds and resources and thus denying the old people proper medical care.

The ensuing death rate is the result



This thread is about the coronavirus not the flu
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:14 pm to
On an average day 1500 people die in Italy
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:15 pm to
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On an average day 1500 people die in Italy


so this only adds to the sadness. Got it.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:15 pm to
We know what the flu does every year and this have enough resources to handle it.

This not only infects more people than the flu but it’s deadlier and has been dropped into our laps with no ability to prepare.

Really hope heat and humidity slow things down
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:17 pm to
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it’s deadlier


Yes but unclear to what extent

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This not only infects more people than the flu


False

Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:18 pm to
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We know what the flu does every year and this have enough resources to handle it.



Well we really don't. I work young people every year that die from the flu. Some I know for a fact that got vaccinated.

quote:

This not only infects more people than the flu but it’s deadlier and has been dropped into our laps with no ability to prepare.



Where is proof of this, it's an emerging virus? Nobody knows this yet.

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Really hope heat and humidity slow things down



I 100% agree
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9287 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:22 pm to
We know the numbers for the flu. Generally speaking at least. So we have enough beds/doctors/etc to cover it. I know there are still tragic deaths, but in broad terms handling the flu is built into our society.

Well we won’t know for sure until this thing runs it course. But there’s already hard studies showing that it’s way more contagious before showing symptoms than the flu is. Some of the doctors will have to give the numbers. But something to do with the amount of R-something in the throat
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:25 pm to
Their health care system has been overrun. Not enough resources to provide care for critically ill. The virus didn’t get deadlier. They can’t provide enough care to those who need it.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:30 pm to
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Well we won’t know for sure until this thing runs it course. But there’s already hard studies showing that it’s way more contagious before showing symptoms than the flu is. Some of the doctors will have to give the numbers. But something to do with the amount of R-something in the throat



I'd be interested to see those studies. You may very well be correct. As I stated in another thread, I've talked to several ER doctors, they themselves haven't worked a confirmed CV case but have talked to some that have. Also on the radio I've heard things that echo what doctors have told me, (as I've said a million times I work ems) they think the CV has been widespread since late last year or early January, and that it peaked probably before most of us knew anything about the Coronavirus name.

I'll be honest of course I hope I'm right, I have to now go into more and more houses due to fear people have corona and calling ems. I hope this soon dies down. As of now, I don't see this being any more dangerous than other viruses. Maybe in a month or so we will know for sure. Obviously I hope I'm right and I'd hope most of ya'll would hope that as well. We should all take precautions during flu (virus) season, especially around elderly, any year, last year, this year, and next year, etc.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:30 pm to
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Really hope heat and humidity slow things down


Me too but there really is no reason to think that it will.

Wuhan wasn’t exactly cold and dry on their worst part of the outbreak.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:34 pm to
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Where is proof of this, it's an emerging virus? Nobody knows this yet
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Oh come on.

It’s not the end of the world bad, or even should be day to day altering, but the only people still hedging on this being distinctly more pronounced clinically than the flu are in denial.

There is ample evidence from multiple independent sources suggesting it to be so.

The only counter? “Hey! HEY! This one guy had mild symptoms!”

I mean seriously? We have ORs and hallways being converted to makeshift ICUs, the virus accounting for a quarter overall of daily deaths in places, and we STILL have people talking like this is seasonal flu.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 7:38 pm
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9287 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:35 pm to
No it wasn’t. But on the other hand it doesn’t seem to be on the same level of spread in Central America Or Africa , the only places where it’s really hot right now.

Of course that could be from lack of testing and travel. But true summer weather, 80’s and 90’s plus humidity...idk just hoping
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:37 pm to
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Oh come on.

It’s not the end of the world bad, or even should be day to day altering, but the only people still hedging on this being distinctly more pronounced clinically than the flu are I n denial.

There is ample evidence from multiple independent sources suggesting it to be so.

The only counter? “Hey! HEY! This one guy had mild symptoms!”

I mean seriously? We have ORs and hallways being converted to makeshift ICUs and we STILL have people talking like this is seasonal flu.




It's an emerging virus, I'm just asking if there are studies that prove this. I'm not even disagreeing, but how do we know it's more contagious or deadly?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53608 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:40 pm to
South Korea is the best source for this data now, as they were the most proactive in testing in the community. They didn’t wait for the worst cases to come to them, they went out into the community.

Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:45 pm to
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South Korea is the best source for this data now, as they were the most proactive in testing in the community. They didn’t wait for the worst cases to come to them, they went out into the community.



That's a good reply and thank you. I'm curious to how many flu cases they have compared to Coronavirus cases. I like everyone else hope this all dies down soon or maybe next season we are more ready for it.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:16 pm to
They had catchy songs to help inform people. The baws need a country pop version by some urban hipster with slashed jeans and truck nuts in the background before they would pay attention
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