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re: It appears that The Rock is off the gear after losing a lot of muscle
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:15 am to Delacroix22
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:15 am to Delacroix22
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The average 30 year old male testosterone level today is like what the average was for 80 year old males 30 years ago.
I would argue more men need it than not need it
To add on to this, this current generation of children will be the first generation to not surpass their parents in physical ability.
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:19 am to Delacroix22
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99% of dudes on trt dont need it but we've developed an entire language to.justify "legal" juicing
You are literally talking out of your arse
The average 30 year old male testosterone level today is like what the average was for 80 year old males 30 years ago.
I would argue more men need it than not need it
I can GUARANTEE you that unless you are OFFICIALLY diagnosed as hypogonadal, you DO NOT NEED trt. End of discussion.
These broad "oh testosterone is lower across the board!" Interjections are totally meaningless when evaluating on an individual basis in a medical setting. They dont cite macro trends when they can perform tests that give them any patient's exact health profile.
If youre on TRT and you are not hypogonadal youre just like a HS kid that wants a boost.
Im not saying youre wrong, im saying that acting like what youre doing is medically necessary is just a cope for the fact that you dont want admit you just want an extra boost.
Plenty of TRT prescriptions to people that just want a little boost. Just admit you want to be big and ripped to look good naked and theres no legitimate medical need.
In fact, supra-physiological levels of T tend to cause cardiovascular issues along with other side effects.
Ill say the guys that just buy a corvette are probably making a healthier decision than the guys that think theyre going to get their 20s body back and start dating women in their 20s when theyre in their mid-40s.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:23 am to tiggerthetooth
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I can GUARANTEE you that unless you are OFFICIALLY diagnosed as hypogonadal, you DO NOT NEED trt. End of discussion.
Start the crawfishing
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Ill say the guys that just buy a corvette are probably making a healthier decision than the guys that think theyre going to get their 20s body back and start dating women in their 20s when they're in theyre in their mid-40s.
This is deeply personal for you
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:23 am to stout
Go woke go broke.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:28 am to stout
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Man, watching you guys prove his point in real time is interesting
Sorry you aren’t an athlete. Never argued “needing” trt. What are your stats? I’ll give you my 100% natty ones
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:41 am to bad93ex
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This is deeply personal for you
Its not personal at all. I just call it like I see it, men who are far too old to be pursuing some shallow image of health while destroying their health to fill a void of insecurity. At that age you should know what is actually healthy vs what is social media inspired.
If youre on trt and not hypogonadal then you probably have body image issues.
Its also not fun to watch the lying by people like the Rock who tried to claim endlessly that he just NEEDS the trt for his health while looking yoked AF in his 50s. Well he now has heart issues (common among testosterone users) and we see him reducing down to what he NATURALLY looks like.
Aside from that, you are a terrible example for younger people in terms of setting a standard for legitimately healthy living over looks-ism pursuits.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:41 am to bad93ex
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...was with you until this, TRT and juicing are worlds apart.
This.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:45 am to stout
Roids giveth and roids taketh away.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:45 am to tiggerthetooth
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I can GUARANTEE you that unless you are OFFICIALLY diagnosed as hypogonadal, you DO NOT NEED trt. End of discussion.
That I can agree with. I won't say end of discussion as their can be exceptions to every rule, but TRT has been taken to extremes. Someone on physiological TRT isn't going to get super jacked. They can get normal jacked, if they work out and eat right, but too many abuse it.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:47 am to tiggerthetooth
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Aside from that, you are a terrible example for younger people in terms of setting a standard for legitimately healthy living over looks-ism pursuits.
Yes, an awful example by cutting out alcohol, working out 4 times a week, 15k+ steps a day and intermittent fasting. A truly terrible example.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:47 am to tiggerthetooth
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Its not personal at all. I just call it like I see it, men who are far too old to be pursuing some shallow image of health. At that age you should know what is actually healthy vs what is social media inspired.
take a nap, grandpa. I call it like I see it as well, you’re a simpleton that glorifies being “healthy” and average as something to aspire to.
The rock is not telling anyone he “needs” TRT for his health. Where are you getting this bullshite? You’re making it up in some weird attempt to bolster your shitty argument. I don’t know that he’s ever even discussed it publicly.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:48 am to SmackoverHawg
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That I can agree with. I won't say end of discussion as their can be exceptions to every rule, but TRT has been taken to extremes. Someone on physiological TRT isn't going to get super jacked. They can get normal jacked, if they work out and eat right, but too many abuse it.
Lots of dudes who claim "oh im just on trt" yet on super high doses.
Yes, these guys probably consulted with a medical professional and did it legal....but we know they' have no condition that requires hormone replacement therapy.
As Ive been saying, just admit you dont need it and you just want to look yoked like the Rock did and also that youre okay with degrading your heart health as a tradeoff.
Stop telling people its necessary and only a modest amount.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:51 am to stout
AlDS?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:52 am to Proximo
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Where are you getting this bullshite?
He talks to a lot of dudes.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:54 am to tiggerthetooth
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Any guy thats muscular/ripped after maybe...40...is on "trt" (so many delusional idiots claiming they "need" trt when really they just want to juice up).
Not even remotely true.
Men can be ripped at any age without drugs if they eat, sleep, and workout right..
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:55 am to udtiger
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He and Bautista.
My first thought as well. I had to do a double-take when I saw a recent picture of Bautista in a suit.
They look like deflated balloons.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:56 am to tiggerthetooth
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As Ive been saying, just admit you dont need it and you just want to look yoked like the Rock did and also that youre okay with degrading your heart health as a tradeoff. Stop telling people its necessary and only a modest amount.
You have legitimately no idea what you are talking about.
HRT is replacement doses of testosterone. Its going to put you in a normal range. Yes, some may be on the higher end of normal, but if you are truly just on HRT you are not going to look like the Rock.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:56 am to TooFyeToFly
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Not even remotely true. Men can be ripped at any age without drugs if they eat, sleep, and workout right..
Correct. That guy has never worked out, meal prepped or been consistent with a training plan a day in his life
He doesn’t know shite about being an athlete
“You can’t be in muscular around 40”
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:01 am to stout
Finally the Rock has come back to normalcy!!!!!
Posted on 9/1/25 at 11:01 am to tiggerthetooth
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Plenty of TRT prescriptions to people that just want a little boost. Just admit you want to be big and ripped to look good naked and theres no legitimate medical need.
This is probably accurate, but the thing is, it should be legal to buy without a prescription.
So I have no issue with it.
Why can I walk into a pharmacy and buy regular insulin, but not a vial of testosterone?
If one were to use 1mL instead of 0.1mL of insulin, they would probably kill themself. You could use 10mL of test (if you theoretically had enough area to inject that volume) instead of 0.1mL and not shite would happen.
Steroids are illegal because the dumbass government had no idea how to keep them out of sports other than to make it a controlled substance
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