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re: Is there any hope of getting a residential contractor anytime soon?
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:00 pm to NOLAVOL16
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:00 pm to NOLAVOL16
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In fact, we’re building now and I intend to repaint the entire interior before moving in to cover up the awful builder grade paint.
Why not just get them to paint it with a quality paint genius?
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Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:01 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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then a professional looks at it
Not if they're not available. You do what you gotta do.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:09 pm to LSUBogeyMan
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Why not just get them to paint it with a quality paint genius?
Thanks never would have thought of that.
because they will only use their colors and their paint. I did make them use a dark color so at least we get better coverage than white.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:16 pm to NOLAVOL16
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because they will only use their colors and their paint. I did make them use a dark color so at least we get better coverage than white.
I’m not sure I understand. If it’s you’re house, they won’t use the paint you would pay for? What am I missing?
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:25 pm to LSUBogeyMan
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If it’s you’re house, they won’t use the paint you would pay for? What am I missing?
Negative aspect of using a large builder instead of a true custom one. You go to a “design center” and have a choice of a few colors but all had to be in their crappy PPG paint.
And yes, I even asked if I could provide the paint on my dime and they keep theirs. Nope. I’m guessing they come in and spray everything so switching colors takes extra time. Regardless, just like OP, when we tried to find a true custom builder, nobody would talk to us unless we were spending $2 mil.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:19 pm to Slippy
If you let us know your location someone may be able to help.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:23 pm to Slippy
quote:Tralala, Mr. Exceedingly Loquacious Gentleman
I have made inquiries of several contractors
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:28 pm to Slippy
In commercial, not residential. But I’d bet you’d have more luck if you got the set of plans yourself, knowing exactly what you want, and then contacting a GC.
A lot of people aren’t familiar with the crazy amount of lead times construction faces just on getting people to approve decisions/finishes/etc. I’d bet a client who knew exactly what hey wanted would be attractive to any GC. All contractors will prefer projects that have quick turnarounds.
A lot of people aren’t familiar with the crazy amount of lead times construction faces just on getting people to approve decisions/finishes/etc. I’d bet a client who knew exactly what hey wanted would be attractive to any GC. All contractors will prefer projects that have quick turnarounds.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:29 pm to NOLAVOL16
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Negative aspect of using a large builder instead of a true custom one. You go to a “design center” and have a choice of a few colors but all had to be in their crappy PPG paint.
You mean you only got ppgs inferior lines or sayi PPG is shite in general? I feel if they are good enough for coasters here in Orlando, they are good enough for your house.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:32 pm to Indfanfromcol
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You mean you only got ppgs inferior lines or sayi PPG is shite in general? I feel if they are good enough for coasters here in Orlando, they are good enough for your house
PPG is shite in general compared to mainline other paints like SW, Ben Moore, or my wife’s favorite Restoration Hardware.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:36 pm to NOLAVOL16
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PPG is shite in general compared to mainline other paints like SW, Ben Moore, or my wife’s favorite Restoration Hardware.
I guess we can agree to disagree. But they are constantly called out on projects here in Florida, in direct sunlight. We’ve done feasibility studies with them against Lanco/axalta, SW, you name it. While some lines are better than others, the issue 90% of the time lies in the painters. Not the paint.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:39 pm to Indfanfromcol
I don’t know anything about painting roller coasters but for interior applications it has horrible coverage and their colors have a very strange undertone.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:44 pm to NOLAVOL16
I’ve been on every recent major hotel project here in Orlando the last 5 years, as well as the theme parks. Have used PPG on FRP and wood. Have never had any issue. Again, it’s probably a painter issue. Did they prime correctly? Did they spray even coats? Did they use enough coats for the substrate they are applying to?
ETA: what also gets a bad rap for no reason is MDF. Yes, if humid or wet environments, it won’t fricking hold up. But inside? There is literally nothing you can’t do with 3/4” mdf. The new Disney rollercoaster used medite everywhere with an automotive paint finish to look like the future because you can kerf it and form it into anything. It makes up almost every substrate veneer is laid up on. It is one of the most versatile materials that can be manipulated in 1000 ways and everyone just thinks of crappy cabinets in their kitchen because their sink leaked and the shite expanded and rotted.
ETA: what also gets a bad rap for no reason is MDF. Yes, if humid or wet environments, it won’t fricking hold up. But inside? There is literally nothing you can’t do with 3/4” mdf. The new Disney rollercoaster used medite everywhere with an automotive paint finish to look like the future because you can kerf it and form it into anything. It makes up almost every substrate veneer is laid up on. It is one of the most versatile materials that can be manipulated in 1000 ways and everyone just thinks of crappy cabinets in their kitchen because their sink leaked and the shite expanded and rotted.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:55 pm to Indfanfromcol
Again, it works for cheap and dirty. Lots of commercial applications.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:00 pm to NOLAVOL16
If you consider JW Marriotts and Loews hotels cheap and dirty, then sure. Had a project call out PPG paint and also marble sourced directly from Italy, but sure. Cheap and dirty projects.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:22 pm to Indfanfromcol
Yes, most commercial jobs are cheap and dirty paint. Nobody staying in a hotel cares how the paint holds up or really even how good it looks to begin with, but they’ll notice marble counters. And yeah, this could all be a personal preference thing. Our biggest problem is the color wheel they use. Most people wouldn’t know the difference but there is one in the undertone colors between the major manufacturers. Sherwin Williams “blue” has a slightly different tint than PPG blue. The “designer” paints have a very specific tone that someone random looking at it wouldn’t be able to tell “why” they like it better but they’ll choose it every time.
Put an MDF cabinet, especially a laminated one, near a stove in a kitchen where actual cooking takes place(as opposed to just heating stuff up) and you’ll notice it peeling within 5 years. MDF is builder grade stuff that looks nice at closing but doesn’t hold up. Kind of like their carpet.
Put an MDF cabinet, especially a laminated one, near a stove in a kitchen where actual cooking takes place(as opposed to just heating stuff up) and you’ll notice it peeling within 5 years. MDF is builder grade stuff that looks nice at closing but doesn’t hold up. Kind of like their carpet.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:35 pm to NOLAVOL16
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Yes, most commercial jobs are cheap and dirty paint.
Not sure where you are doing commercial work, but that 100% is not the case in central Florida. Everything is picked for the finish look on opening day to remain at a minimum of 7 years (10 by contract). I’m now client side, and our interior decorating department works closely with our business analytics department. We pick higher end finishes so we can maintain a certain look for X amount of years to maximize profit. If we have to close down areas due to needed renovations typically before 7 years, we theoretically will lose out on profit.
Saying that, the multiple big clients in the area also choose paint based on rebate deals as well. I personally have seen the large brand all perform the same. It’s smaller, more specialized paint that really stands out (can’t be bought by individuals).
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:38 pm to NOLAVOL16
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Put an MDF cabinet, especially a laminated one, near a stove in a kitchen where actual cooking takes place(as opposed to just heating stuff up) and you’ll notice it peeling within 5 years. MDF is builder grade stuff that looks nice at closing but doesn’t hold up. Kind of like their carpet.
That’s not a MDF problem, that’s an adhesive problem of whoever laid up the finish. Typical projects should be calling out melamine substrates in kitchens at worst, but it’s still essentially a partical board substrate. But also, no commercial project should be calling out any wood/laminate cabinets in their kitchen. Lots of better options.
This post was edited on 5/9/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:42 pm to Slippy
GCs will ALWAYS take new construction over remodel/retro work, because it’s easier to price and they know what will be needed before they start.
Even in slow times, it is a PITA to find a good GC.
Even in slow times, it is a PITA to find a good GC.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:02 pm to Slippy
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