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re: Is the "Whore of Babylon" the United States?

Posted on 9/9/16 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Amazing Moves
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 4:02 pm to
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- Israel becomes a state -The dragon (the prophesy of Fatima said it was communism) will be slain and replaced by the beast - The ability for everyone in the world to see an event at the same time must be available - An over arching World Government, but does not control all the nations - A 1 world currency - Purchase and trade will be done with a mark in the hand or head...those that don't take it will be beheaded... - A "star" called Wormwood must "fall" and make bitter a third of the world's rivers. - A presumably different space thing hits the ocean and kills a bunch of fish, third of the world's oceans - A combining of the world's religions will occur - The temple mount will have another temple of Solomon built presumably with the dome still there (Abomination of Desolation?) - There will be a united cabal of several nations (NATO?), made of the multitudes. - Wonders will occur in the sky. - The Four Horsemen come - The white Horse, elites will rule and control everything -The red Horse, non-stop wars and rumors of wars -The black Horse, world wide economic collapse - The pale horse, death (a bunch of people will die) - Gog and Magog will put an army on the plains of Megido (presumably Russia and Iran) vs. Israel - No one will come to Israel's aid, but God will sweep the armies away There's more...


Lunacy.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 5:19 pm to
Why is that lunacy?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62835 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

- Israel becomes a state
-The dragon (the prophesy of Fatima said it was communism) will be slain and replaced by the beast
- The ability for everyone in the world to see an event at the same time must be available
- An over arching World Government, but does not control all the nations
- A 1 world currency
- Purchase and trade will be done with a mark in the hand or head...those that don't take it will be beheaded...
- A "star" called Wormwood must "fall" and make bitter a third of the world's rivers.
- A presumably different space thing hits the ocean and kills a bunch of fish, third of the world's oceans
- A combining of the world's religions will occur
- The temple mount will have another temple of Solomon built presumably with the dome still there (Abomination of Desolation?)
- There will be a united cabal of several nations (NATO?), made of the multitudes.
- Wonders will occur in the sky.
- The Four Horsemen come
- The white Horse, elites will rule and control everything
-The red Horse, non-stop wars and rumors of wars
-The black Horse, world wide economic collapse
- The pale horse, death (a bunch of people will die)
- Gog and Magog will put an army on the plains of Megido (presumably Russia and Iran) vs. Israel
- No one will come to Israel's aid, but God will sweep the armies away
Thank you. That gave me a legit boner.

I don't know about any of that bullshite, but it is true that every civilization across the globe has eventually been torn down by other humans. It's what Robert Howard was trying to tell us with Conan the Barbarian. The unwashed hordes will always tear down the shining cities.

Plus, we seem to have a self-destructive mechanism baked into our genetics. It's as though (or is in fact) we think we deserve to be destroyed, or at least severely decimated. Just think about all of the movies, TV shows and books set centuries in the future. The majority of them seem to presume that there will have been a great, final world war before whatever future exists in the story.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 6:08 pm to
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The first time I read it, I thought it was the United States and still do. We could have a very good discussion about this if we could eliminate the non believers from the conversation.


You thought that 100 percent due to confirmation bias. It is the country you are from, and what relates to you, and what would be something that "has to do" with you, and you made it fit to what you wanted to see.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24068 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:12 pm to
Probably ancient Rome. As you know Rev can be read historically or prophetically. I'll go with historically.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10965 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 7:20 pm to
The US is slutty, but we never go full whore.
Posted by SA Tiger
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:20 pm to
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Probably ancient Rome. As you know Rev can be read historically or prophetically. I'll go with historically


Actually, it's both.

quote:

Read Revelation 12:1 and then look at the flag of the EU.


Revelation 12:1 refers to Israel.


The answer to the OP's question is no. The whore is the one world religion to come. The ecumenical movement has already begun.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:24 pm to
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The Catholic Church is your answer.


I watched that Netflix movie last night with Michael Keaton detailing the church abuse scandal up in Boston. Watch that and you will see what a corrupt, morally bankrupt, crooked institution the Catholic church actually is. Sickening.


LOL, yeah, I can't name any other supposedly Christian denomination where the pastor sexually abused children or the wives of the congregation.

You Prods are funny.

LC
Posted by rickyh
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:35 pm to
Why the hate? I saw what the word says. If you look up the first 2 nations who committed a whoredom against God. It was Israel and her sister Judah. They fell from grace after going out whoring with other Gods but still called themselves his chosen people. We claim to be a Christian nation. But now their is a new God. Money being the primary but many more. We lack a moral compass. So since we still consider ourselves blessed. Our nation has turned from God. Babylon was the most powerful nation during that time. Who is it now? Who makes the merchants who trade by ships in the sea rich rich because of her costliness. What country has slaughter over 60 million of it's on babies? Don't get me started. Our nation has committed a whoredom against God because he was married to us and we have allowed out government to be overthrown.
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6174 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:40 pm to
Lunacy supporting lunacy is lunacy.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:41 pm to
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Revelation 12:1 refers to Israel.


I don't believe it. The lady wearing a crown of 12 stars is the EU. You can't look at the flag and tell me that's just a coincidence it is literally a crown of twelve stars.
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6174 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:51 pm to
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I don't believe it. The lady wearing a crown of 12 stars is the EU. You can't look at the flag and tell me that's just a coincidence it is literally a crown of twelve stars.


I don't see how anyone believes this ancient crap with what we now know about the natural world. Religious indoctrination makes otherwise logical people defend the illogical.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:52 pm to
It's Mecca, proveably.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/9/16 at 8:54 pm to
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Revelations


Revelation. It's a singular revelation.
Posted by 70345
Member since May 2009
435 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:38 pm to
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Revelation 12:1 refers to Israel


12:1 is all about the Virgin Mary with child -Jesus-. the 12 stars refer to the 12 tribes of Isreal, her ancestors. All the angels, good and bad, were shown the image of Mary before she came to earth and what her mission was, but not told when.

It just so happened that Eve had same image of Mary, thus is why Satan/Lucifer went after Eve. Also perceiving Adam was Jesus, being he had the same features.

The AntiChrist is the Pope. In translation, "anti" means "in place of", not against. All the popes has proclaimed themselves the Vicar of Christ, meaning Christ on earth.

The Beast is the Vatican. The Pope will present us the False Prophet, to which "many will be deceived".


Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:49 pm to
LOL, another Prod with a "message".

LC
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 9:56 pm to
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Lunacy


I didn't write the bible...I'm just saying it's all in there...

Daniel, Isaiah, Revelation, Matthew and Timothy mostly...little hints in other books of "end times" etc.

Mostly summed up by "as in the days of Noah."

Which could even mean aliens...because genesis says the watchers, nephilim and giants roamed earth with men in those times...

Kooky, I agree

ETA: sorry didn't know we had a thumper upset with the (s)
This post was edited on 9/9/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
79032 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:02 pm to
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The AntiChrist is the Pope. In translation, "anti" means "in place of", not against.


Um, no.

The term Antichrist appears four times, and never as a proper noun. It is also specifically defined as one who denies Christ.
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:03 pm to
Oh and 1 more tidbit...

Chernobyl means a certain plant in Russian...that plant is a type of Wormwood.
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
3707 posts
Posted on 9/9/16 at 10:05 pm to
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LOL, yeah, I can't name any other supposedly Christian denomination where the pastor sexually abused children or the wives of the congregation.



No one is saying it has never been done in another denomination or religion. If you do not think that it is a disproportionately huge problem in the catholic church, then you are a fool.
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