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re: Is it worth reeducating the slums?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:00 pm to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:00 pm to OysterPoBoy
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You can't educate people that don't want to be educated. More money won't help.
This. Start by cutting out welfare completely on people that are healthy enough to work. It will suck for those involved, especially the kids, but it will fix the problem in a hurry.
If the whole family is starving, they will have no choice but to start working. Or slinging dope, which means legalizing/decriminalizing drugs here.
None of this will happen. The system is broken and its not getting fixed.
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Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:01 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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Paid Sterilization.
I have said for a long time that one way to fix welfare was exactly that. $5000 one time cash payment (no taxes deducted) for anyone who is on assistance who gets sterilized.
With regard to schools, I would say more trade schools are great, but if these kids are ignorant by the time they get to the trade school they will fail.
I think if persons on assistance had money deducted from their check for every tardy or absence from school. Also deduct money from them when the child makes below a C on any test. There is no reason (in their mind) for these people to make the effort to help their kids. The parents are ignorant and have little to no job skills so why should they care if their kids learn a trade.
Make life more difficult for them and they will (maybe) make an effort.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:01 pm to LucasP
I suppose it's a more valiant effort than the "we need more gallows" argument.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Remove safety net, end the war on drugs and the lower 20% would shape up in record time
I agree that this would go a long way in fixing a lot of the problem.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:02 pm to fareplay
Mandatory sterilization on every child born into the same cycle of poverty, single parenthood, welfare recipient, crime, thug reality.
its a start
its a start
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:06 pm to maxxrajun70
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Mandatory sterilization on very child born into the same cycle of poverty, single parenthood, welfare recipient, crime, thug reality.
I don't like a government with that much power. I'd be good with a financial incentive because the problem would kind of fix itself over time.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:10 pm to jdeval1
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be good with a financial incentive because the problem would kind of fix itself over time.
Like Lucas's idea of state funded orphanages? You take away poorly-cared-for children then you take away the welfare that comes with them. So parents are incentivized to take care of their kids or not have them. It would be the most painless way to let the problem resolve itself, in my opinion.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:12 pm to jdeval1
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I don't like a government with that much power
Current plan is not working so a radical change is necessary.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:12 pm to LucasP
I fully expected to have a dirty hippy like you call for an expansion of the state, but the right wingers that call for expansion of state powers while pissing and moaning about too much govt always crack me up.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:22 pm to fareplay
You live there you tell us..
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:27 pm to upgrayedd
don't let an ideology blind you to good ideas. Government isn't always the problem just like it's not always the solution. It can be good or bad for society.Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:31 pm to LucasP
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don't let an ideology blind you to good ideas. Government isn't always the problem just like it's not always the solution. It can be good or bad for society.
Yeah, I think we're all guilty of that in one sense or another. I like how Joe Rogan says he's not married to his ideas. I wish I could be more like that.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:37 pm to fareplay
Education doesn't replace parenting.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:05 pm to fareplay
It is always a long term value when you educate someone. This gives them hope and ethics and morality. If it even curbs 25% of cyclical poverty, it is worth it.
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