re: India says rich nations must hit net zero and pay up on climate

India does some 7 million open air cremations a year burning some 50-60 million trees.That’s a whole lot of carbon released.

Is that Galveston, TX in 10 years ?

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raising the cost of petro products (via regulation) is going to be really rough on developed economies, but it will be disastrous on developing/poor economies. you think a major increase in the price of gas, oil, and petro products will your your wallet, imagine how it will affect a person making $5/day

petro goes well beyond a power source (although that is typically the narrow view, in my experience, of eco-warriors).

there are three options as i see it

1. only apply restrictions to developed nations. this means China, India, Indonesia, etc will run rampant polluting the earth, so it isn't really a solution as much as punishing the developed West

2. apply restrictions to every country and cause a downturn in the lives of billions of poor people, likely leading to tens of millions (conservative) of deaths

3. applying even regulations, but with a tax. the idea is to take more money from developed nations to subsidize the poor nations (the IMF is proposing something similar)

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or we could tell them to frick off....if the UN proposes the last two, we leave immediately and kick them out of the US

that is our offer, all countries get the same restrictions. i dont give a frick about any of those shite holes, they pollute no matter what.