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re: IF our government can execute Bin Laden....why not American criminals?

Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:35 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:35 am to
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Bin Laden was not executed. He was killed during a military operation during a war
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Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:40 am to
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Bin Laden was not executed. He was killed during a military operation during a war
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I dont seem to recall Congress declaring war on anything recently besides american values
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:43 am to

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I dont seem to recall Congress declaring war on anything recently besides american values


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Bin Laden was not executed. He was killed during a military operation during a military operation designed to kill or capture him


Feel better, nerd?

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:43 am to
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Do you really think a bigger effort would have been made to keep them alive?


They fired AR-15s at cops. They made the decision to die, not the cops.
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:49 am to
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Feel better, nerd?


if it makes you feel better. The world does run by a different set of laws when war is declared, but this is simply not the case.


Bin Laden became the enemy of the world, so no one cared, but had this been someone else and they surrendered(not saying he did) during the capture operation, there would be a lot more outrage
Posted by Wolf
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:50 am to
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Why wait for a trial and dog and pony show for assholes like this? If we know they did it...just send a seal team in to eliminate them and everyone in the house with them. Send a message to domestic terrorists.


How do you know he actually did it? Because the media told you he did?

Who gets to make that decision? Politicians?The police? The military?

If we give this carte blanche to one of these entities, what's to stop them from using it to take out political enemies?


As frustrating as it is to watch scumbag trash game the system and clog up the courts, the rights to a trial and appeals are fundamental rights of US citizens that separate us from dictatorial shitholes in the middle east.

Our system is designed to protect the wrongly accused just as much as it is to punish the guilty offenders. And that's the way it should be.
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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:53 am to
I'm commenting on the OP, nothing more. You can go white knight about other hypotheticals. I don't care.
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:54 am to
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As frustrating as it is to watch scumbag trash game the system and clog up the courts, the rights to a trial and appeals are fundamental rights of US citizens that separate us from dictatorial shitholes in the middle east.


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If we give this carte blanche to one of these entities, what's to stop them from using it to take out political enemies?


Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:55 am to
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I'm commenting on the OP, nothing more. You can go white knight about other hypotheticals. I don't care.


As am I, you confirmed the other posters reasoning that its okay if its during war. it didnt happen during war
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 11:59 am to
So we should bring up soldiers on murder charges from the Korean conflict through 2016 for killing enemy combatants?
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:02 pm to
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So we should bring up soldiers on murder charges from the Korean conflict through 2016 for killing enemy combatants?



nice straw man, but that is no way what I said
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:02 pm to
So what's your point?
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:38 pm to
Really odd that you acknowledge the Innocence Projects success yet still advocate swift executions. In other words, you're ok with the government killing a few innocent citizens.

Me, I don't trust the government enough to get the right person and I don't like the government executing innocent people.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:48 pm to
You sound pretty much exactly like the ayatollah Khomeini
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:06 pm to
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Really odd that you acknowledge the Innocence Projects success yet still advocate swift executions. In other words, you're ok with the government killing a few innocent citizens.


No. I'm not okay with it. I'm for a balance and getting it right. Justice delayed is justice denied.

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Me, I don't trust the government enough to get the right person and I don't like the government executing innocent people.


I don't like murderous monsters living for 4 and 5 decades on the public dole. Justice is a two-way street.
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