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'I Love You, Now Die' -anyone watch this?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:08 am
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:08 am
I remember reading about the case on here when it happened and thinking that Michelle Carter is an evil, sinister human being.
But after watching the doc, I came away with pity for not only Conrad Roy, but also her. Don't get me wrong, what she did was fricked up, and absolutely wrong, but they were both incredibly mentally ill, and just completely lost and deprived in trying to develop into young adults. They fed off each other's depression and mental illness.
It was all incredibly heartbreaking, and as someone who doesn't have kids, I can't imagine seeing your child have such a level of depression. Her being excluded by her "friends" for being too needy really got to me as well.
This case is also an indictment on how social media and communicating with someone solely through text can kind of strip away the actual human aspect of relationships, and make interpersonal contact hollow.
I am sure that people will disagree with me feeling any kind of pity for her, and that is fine, I can see where you are coming from-she might just be a complete psychopath. I didn't completely gather that from the film, though. I have a soft heart for mental illness and its consequences.
thoughts?
here is an article about the case
LINK
But after watching the doc, I came away with pity for not only Conrad Roy, but also her. Don't get me wrong, what she did was fricked up, and absolutely wrong, but they were both incredibly mentally ill, and just completely lost and deprived in trying to develop into young adults. They fed off each other's depression and mental illness.
It was all incredibly heartbreaking, and as someone who doesn't have kids, I can't imagine seeing your child have such a level of depression. Her being excluded by her "friends" for being too needy really got to me as well.
This case is also an indictment on how social media and communicating with someone solely through text can kind of strip away the actual human aspect of relationships, and make interpersonal contact hollow.
I am sure that people will disagree with me feeling any kind of pity for her, and that is fine, I can see where you are coming from-she might just be a complete psychopath. I didn't completely gather that from the film, though. I have a soft heart for mental illness and its consequences.
thoughts?
here is an article about the case
LINK
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 10:04 am
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:11 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:I really like polished concrete floors in big box stores.
thoughts?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:11 am to Funky Tide 8
I need more context. What happened?
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:22 am to Funky Tide 8
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But after watching the doc, I came away with pity for not only Conrad Roy, but also her
Congrats on falling for what was intended by the film. HBO had decades of practice at making you feel certain ways after watching a film. Watch the Phil Spectre movie and you will think he is innocent.
I hope you be are not of been those "the media" types that post on here because you just fell for it.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:27 am to Funky Tide 8
It's been running on one of the movie channels but I haven't checked it out yet. That case was all kinds of messed up, though.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:27 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:Shes a pathological liar, so there's no telling what should be believed. But I really don't think she realized she was being malicious, she just really was that crazy. Wanted to be the grieving victim like the chick from a fricking TV show. Either way, she encouraged someone to take their life, and there's going to be consequences.
I am sure that people will disagree with me feeling any kind of pity for her, and that is fine, I can see where you are coming from-she might just be a complete psychopath.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:27 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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I need more context. What happened?
LINK
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A Massachusetts judge on Monday ordered Michelle Carter to start serving her sentence for persuading her boyfriend to kill himself in 2014. Carter was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in June 2017 after a judge determined that her texts to Conrad Roy III persuaded him to kill himself.
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A Massachusetts judge on Monday ordered Michelle Carter to start serving her sentence for persuading her boyfriend to kill himself in 2014. Carter was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in June 2017 after a judge determined that her texts to Conrad Roy III persuaded him to kill himself.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:32 am to Pitch To Johnny
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Either way, she encouraged someone to take their life, and there's going to be consequences.
Absolutely, I do not disagree with judge's ruling.
and yeah, I mean, she was delusional, fantastical, and extremely depressed. Not good combinations for a teenager.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:43 am to Funky Tide 8
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Carter listened over the phone as Roy suffocated from carbon monoxide inhalation in his pickup truck and failed to notify his parents or authorities when he died.
Dude come on, she listened over the phone and didn't contact anyone after the fact. That is one cold hearted bitch. Its not like they had a suicide pact or something where she would off herself too, she sat on the sidelines and cheered for his death. I have no pity for her, and feel her sentencing was light. In a previous life she was probably Heinrich Himmler, providing the plans and means for Hitler to execute his final solution.
She didn't have to stop him, she could have simply let someone know, but encouraging the boyfriend to kill himself is just wrong.
ETA: apologies for the hitler shite, he essentially gassed himself like the Nazis did the Jews. I just feel its really disturbing that she was on the phone listening to this all go down and then just go about her life however depressed she might have been.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:44 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Congrats on falling for what was intended by the film. HBO had decades of practice at making you feel certain ways after watching a film. Watch the Phil Spectre movie and you will think he is innocent.
Have you watched he doc? If so, then where did you find it to be lean one way or the other? I thought that the filmmaker actually did a great job of laying out the facts, and not injecting much bias into it. Most of it was simply texts, interviews from the victims family, and trial footage. It is a 2 part series, the first titled "Prosecution," and the second called "Defense."
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I hope you be are not of been those "the media" types that post on here because you just fell for it.
"The media" types?
If you didn't watch the doc, then just move along, buddy.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:56 am to Emteein
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Dude come on, she listened over the phone and didn't contact anyone after the fact. That is one cold hearted bitch. Its not like they had a suicide pact or something where she would off herself too, she sat on the sidelines and cheered for his death. I have no pity for her, and feel her sentencing was light. In a previous life she was probably Heinrich Himmler, providing the plans and means for Hitler to execute his final solution.
She didn't have to stop him, she could have simply let someone know, but encouraging the boyfriend to kill himself is just wrong.
yeah, I mean, this is how I felt after reading about the case initially. The doc changed my perception of things a little bit. You should watch it.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:10 am to Funky Tide 8
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actually did a great job of laying out the facts, and not injecting much bias into it
Most "documentaries" are shitty, propaganda pieces designed to elicit a strong response one way or another. They're generally all biased, as that's the intent.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:34 am to Funky Tide 8
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Ms. Carter texted another friend and recounted the call: In the text, she said that Mr. Roy had grown scared at one point and climbed out of the truck, and that she had told him to get back in.
This right here.
I will give the documentary a shot, but I don't foresee anything presented that would change my opinion of her simply being a cold bitch. Even if she didn't actually do that like the defense argued, why would you even say that you did. You really think its cool that you encouraged someone to kill themselves? to me boasting about that is nearly as bad as actually doing it.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:01 am to Emteein
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You really think its cool that you encouraged someone to kill themselves?
I clearly stated that it was fricked up, and wrong, and that she deserved the sentence that she got.
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to me boasting about that is nearly as bad as actually doing it.
She didn't really boast about it. It was more of a desperate "confession" to her friend.
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I will give the documentary a shot, but I don't foresee anything presented that would change my opinion of her simply being a cold bitch.
As I said, I felt the same way you do before watching.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Most "documentaries" are shitty, propaganda pieces designed to elicit a strong response one way or another. They're generally all biased, as that's the intent.
okay cool, I did not find that to be the case in this one.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:18 am to Funky Tide 8
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You really think its cool that you encouraged someone to kill themselves?
I clearly stated that it was fricked up, and wrong, and that she deserved the sentence that she got.
Just to be clear, "you really think its cool...." wasn't directed at you, it was to the cold hearted bitch. I never interpreted what you posted as being cool with what she did.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:28 am to Emteein
Ahh gotcha man. 
To that point though, I'm honestly not so sure that she thought that what she was doing wasn't ok.
For two years he flooded her with texts about killing himself, and how that was the only way he'd feel better, and she pleaded for him not to do it, and he even tried at least once, to her apparent dismay. Then 2 months or so before he did go through with it, she started encouraging him to do it.
To that point though, I'm honestly not so sure that she thought that what she was doing wasn't ok.
For two years he flooded her with texts about killing himself, and how that was the only way he'd feel better, and she pleaded for him not to do it, and he even tried at least once, to her apparent dismay. Then 2 months or so before he did go through with it, she started encouraging him to do it.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:01 pm to Funky Tide 8
I watched it last night and she is bat shite crazy.
After she told him to get back in she deserves to be strung up.
After she told him to get back in she deserves to be strung up.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:29 pm to Funky Tide 8
Thanks for posting this. I'm gonna check it out.
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:07 am to tigergirl10
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Thanks for posting this. I'm gonna check it out.
Let me know what you think.
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