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Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Our values system has changed from trust to "prove it."
This is a good thing. People use to believe in all sorts of shite because they trusted. Being inquisitive and looking for factual, tangible proof in the world is a product of the information age. The smart people in the world get smarter everyday. Thats a fact.
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The US is the most litigious society in the world
This doesnt prove there is less honor. It could prove a number of things. More laws protecting various civil liberties. Maybe if certain laws/legal avenues had been available 50-100 years ago you would have more lawsuits. Also, are we talking more lawsuits or more money in settlements/judgement. Either way that makes sense statistically. There are more people. And more money now.
Also, the world is smaller now. It would be much harder for a person in 1930 to sue than it would be now. Plus, people were probably just generally less aware of the dynamics of the legal system and how to access it.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Here's my take: whether our "values system" has changed from trust to "prove it" is irrelevant. Our legal system, however fricked up, is just a growth on top of the underlying values that have always been there. In other words, in the past you may have trusted someone, gotten fricked, but were none the wiser and happy in that ignorance. You just went on believing that you were done right.
Now, you can agree or disagree and that's fine. It's an observation based on years of experience and changing folkways in American society. Our values system has changed from trust to "prove it."
Would you say there's no probability in that?
Would you say there's no probability in that?
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:31 am to PoundFoolish
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yet entitlement culture promotes a different (and wholly destructive) narrative.
Norms are constantly changing.
People used to have to rely on word of mouth for their business or community reputation. Today advertising supplants word of mouth. It's a lot easier to impress millions of people via a 30 second ad than to build a reputation from person to person.
Social media may reverse this trend though. I think that's a good thing.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Because you dismissed a comment because it came from an inexperienced "kid". As if your experience trumps all.
What makes you think this isn't the case?
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:33 am to Hester Carries
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The smart people in the world get smarter everyday. Thats a fact.
Some truth here . . . but I think its becoming increasingly difficult to nourish the "smart" people from an early age. There tends to be a disconnect between the "smart" Boomers & Gen X'ers and the current Millenials (even the ones who've had "personal experience").
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:34 am to Korkstand
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In other words, in the past you may have trusted someone, gotten fricked, but were none the wiser and happy in that ignorance. You just went on believing that you were done right.
Most people are aware when they've been screwed over.
Social media has the power to push society and industry IMO. I believe it will have a profound affect (and it's already visible) on relationships and keeping people "honest."
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:35 am to To the Dome
I love how old timers sit in here acting like they were these "Amazing" and "morally rich" people when in fact, you were a hell of lot more racist, more vulgar, more sexist than anyone today.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:36 am to PoundFoolish
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Some truth here . . . but I think its becoming increasingly difficult to nourish the "smart" people from an early age. There tends to be a disconnect between the "smart" Boomers & Gen X'ers and the current Millenials (even the ones who've had "personal experience").
Ill clarify that i mean knowledge and not aptitude. Newton was probably the smartest person of all time. But he would be a retard for a while if you dropped him into days society.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:36 am to Korkstand
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Because you dismissed a comment because it came from an inexperienced "kid". As if your experience trumps all.
Yeah, you're lost. You picked up in mid stream.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:36 am to xxKylexx
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I love how old timers sit in here acting like they were these "Amazing" and "morally rich" people when in fact, you were a hell of lot more racist, more vulgar, more sexist than anyone today.
What?
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:37 am to To the Dome
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Truthfulness is not easy. Having values and convictions shouldn't be an after thought.
i agree with this
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sadly this is a lost quality
i don't agree with this
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
he wears a fedora, slow.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:37 am to PoundFoolish
quote:
Some truth here . . . but I think its becoming increasingly difficult to nourish the "smart" people from an early age. There tends to be a disconnect between the "smart" Boomers & Gen X'ers and the current Millenials (even the ones who've had "personal experience").
I think the difference is in the socioeconomic classes more than generational.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:These days, yeah. In the "old days", maybe not so much. Information wasn't as readily available, it was more difficult to keep in touch with people, etc. It was probably a LOT easier to screw someone over and cover your tracks.
Most people are aware when they've been screwed over.
quote:Yeah, the world is a lot more open now. But that openness just exposes what was already there.
Social media has the power to push society and industry IMO. I believe it will have a profound affect (and it's already visible) on relationships and keeping people "honest."
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:38 am to Korkstand
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But that openness just exposes what was already there.
eh
it has created its own monsters
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, you're lost. You picked up in mid stream.
Well yes and no. You were responding to my post. However, my post was based on factual evidence. Those were, by definition platitudes. Also, based on your posting history, i know you to be in a general age range.
You only know that you disagree with me. You dont know my experience or age. You went off "feel". Thats kinda the whole crux of our debate. It just continuously illustrates itself in different forms.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Nope, I'm not lost. I've read the whole stream.
Yeah, you're lost. You picked up in mid stream.
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:41 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Like what? And how?quote:eh
But that openness just exposes what was already there.
it has created its own monsters
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:42 am to Hester Carries
quote:
Well yes and no. You were responding to my post. However, my post was based on factual evidence
Your post I replied to was an opinion.
the "kid" remark was tongue and cheek in response to your old man comment.
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