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re: How to convince a family member that homeopathic medicine is malarkey?

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Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
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Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:01 pm to
Sometimes I think I'm the only one here who understands what facts are.

Geoengineering and chemtrails are a fact. I have no doubt about either, I've seen both in action and I've observed both, so yes, fact.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:02 pm to
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Whatever happened to those balance bracelets everyone was buying a few years ago?



The market just wasn't stable and it toppled.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:03 pm to
Wow. I need to visit the OT more to see the crazies.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:04 pm to
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Whatever happened to those balance bracelets everyone was buying a few years ago?



All I know is that Brett Favre was selling magic copper bands that were supposed to help with discomfort in your limbs.

Now they are being marketed as compression garments, and the copper is no longer magic but claimed to be an antimicrobial to keep the band from smelling.

Essentially someone called them out on their shite.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:05 pm to
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Wow. I need to visit the OT more to see the crazies.


If you are talking about me, no, not crazy. I know what I see. Fact. If you are talking about the sheeple in denial, then yes, maybe.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:06 pm to
See, my biggest problem is that I know where this leads.

You get them in with a free gift. The sample. You weave your spell, you convince them that you'd be foolish not to buy in at this steal of a price!

see, I could have been a con man, or a preacher. I could sell salvation and peace and hope with a silver tongue.

But I've got too much decency in me, at least at this point. My sins are many and grievous but at least I'm honest. If I'm gonna sell something I'm not gonna fleece some old folks with false promises. And it makes me hate people that do and have a want to bring them down.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:07 pm to
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Sometimes I think I'm the only one here who understands what facts are.


Well, you aren't providing any.

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I've observed both


Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily a fact.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:07 pm to
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I've seen both in action and I've observed both, so yes, fact.



What did you see?
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:09 pm to
I put a crystal in each nostril to filter out the chemtrails.

Checkmate, science!
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:10 pm to
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I mean, she can have her faith and the power of prayer and all that. That's fine.

That's harmless (in s. Louisiana at least) and pretty much free. But this homeopathy nonsense is just a bridge too far.


The placebo effect is real and can have a lot to do with why people may believe they are being helped by non-traditional medicine, I would at least read up on it before casting away what your mother is doing.

In other words If your mother thinks it is helping her is that not worth something?


"The placebo effect has been controversial throughout history. Notable medical organizations have endorsed it,[6] but in 1903 Richard Cabot concluded that it should be avoided because it is deceptive. Newman points out the "placebo paradox" – it may be unethical to use a placebo, but also unethical "not to use something that heals".

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"Brain imaging techniques done by Emeran Mayer, Johanna Jarco and Matt Lieberman showed that placebo can have real, measurable effects on physiological changes in the brain.[11] Placebos can produce some objective physiological changes, such as changes in heart rate, blood pressure, and chemical activity in the brain, in cases involving pain, depression, anxiety, fatigue, and some symptoms of Parkinson’s. In other cases, like asthma, the effect is purely subjective, when the patient reports improvement despite no objective change in the underlying condition"

This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 11:16 pm
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:11 pm to
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What did you see?


I'm tired and about to go to bed but here are the facts: I see chemtrails in the sky. Regular planes don't make two lines that cross perfectly in a "plus" shape. Exactly a plus shape. Or, when it is hot as hell on the ground and you see these supposed "ice crystals" like people want you to believe. Or, trails from planes where planes don't generally fly. Or I see planes flying high and only some emit trails. Hmmm ... yea, these aren't created

I see them and this is proof. So, yes, fact.

And, there is nothing anecdotal about what I see. This isn't something I heard from someone else.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:12 pm to
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If you are talking about the sheeple in denial, then yes, maybe.


It's not that we don't believe you. It's that we just haven't been privy to this secret information that you folks get in these blogs you read and are ignorant of the ways of this weather manipulation. Have pity on us, please. We keep blaming these weather phenomena on fronts and pressure systems, we would like to be educated on your pseudo-sciences
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:13 pm to
I've already been through this with you. When are you going to realize the clear truth and stop being a gullible sheep?

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What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter straight up at 7 miles per second, and that NASA can do the impossible on a daily basis, explore the cosmos, and constantly wow the nation by landing a man on the moon and sending robots to mars; or is the simplest explanation that they really can't do all of that stuff?


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How can there be geoengineering when there are no satellites because the space program was faked?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:13 pm to
Go to geoengineeringwatch.org. Simple as that. They have and post the facts and government reports admitting weather manipulation.

Goodnight.

Fr33- be cool and nice to your mom.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135029 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:14 pm to
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I put a crystal in each nostril to filter out the chemtrails.



No no no...


As a Doctor* of Crystalology I know For a FACT that the only way to fend off chemtrails is to take the crystals (big ones, so you know they are good) and jam em way up your butthole.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:14 pm to
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I see them and this is proof. So, yes, fact.

And, there is nothing anecdotal about what I see. This isn't something I heard from someone else.



Damn, and this whole time I thought I was seeing vapor.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:17 pm to
I made it more humid in my room with a humidifier.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:18 pm to
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Go to geoengineeringwatch.org. Simple as that. They have and post the facts and government reports admitting weather manipulation.


I see your geoengineeringwatch.org website and raise you one theflatearthsociety.org.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:20 pm to
The flate arth society?
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