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re: How stupid are the owners/managers at car dealerships?

Posted on 7/28/14 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 2:53 pm to
I'm not going to argue with you. You don't answer simple straight-forward questions, you lack reading comprehension skills and when cornered, you resort to name-calling. We both know you wouldn't behave this way in person.

Leasing may have tightened up it's credit requirements, but there is no doubt that people (and dealers) use leasing as tool to get them in a more expensive car than they would qualify for otherwise. That said, certain makes will get you in a lease if you can fog a mirror (Nissan and Rover).

I don't have an axe to grind here. I give honest advice based on buying and trading cars on the retail and wholesale level for 35+ years. I'm successful in business (not automotive related) and if I can share some of my hard-earned mistakes with others, I will do so.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 2:57 pm to
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Enjoy the eternal car payment.


Most people do have an eternal car payment. If you normally pay off a car leasing does not make sense.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:02 pm to
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It's amazing to me you run and hide from every point that makes you look like a fool. I noticed you never even bothered with the 3 years of payments that you brought up and how that got thrown right back in your face. Should we get you a shovel to keep digging?


So are you asserting that the average car buyer has positive equity three years into a loan??
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:03 pm to
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So are you asserting that the average car buyer has positive equity three years into a loan??


Did you just gloss over my example, or what?

Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:06 pm to
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So are you asserting that the average car buyer has positive equity three years into a loan??


I would think so yes

A car should be at least 50% paid off in 3 years and they don't normally depreciate that much, unless they are higher mileage than leases allow
Posted by Rolltide10
Guntersville
Member since Aug 2009
1005 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:08 pm to
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It really is amazing to me that you think that when you turn in a leased vehicle it becomes part of the dealerships inventory
it does if the dealership wants it. There is a buyout on every lease turn in and if the dealership wants it then they buy it
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28330 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:09 pm to
Agree.

Just about any dog is worth 50 points after 3 years and normal miles.

Trucks and Jeep Wranglers are worth waaaay more than that. Freakin' Tacomas might still be worth 90%.

The big BMWs and M-Bs, maybe not.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:17 pm to
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The big BMWs and M-Bs, maybe not.


Well, we are on the OT
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:18 pm to
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The big BMWs and M-Bs, maybe not.


2011 S63 $140k new, $75k after almost 40k miles. I didn't pick the most expensive one just to be fair.

2011 S550 $95k new, $55k with 42k miles. Again, not the most expensive.

Why mouton is so hell bent on the three year window, I'll never know.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28330 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:22 pm to
That's not as bad as I thought. a bit better than 50%, but I bet you could offer $70K or $50K and you'd be ridin' in style.


After 5-6 years, they are boat anchors.

Errybody afraid of $10K transmissions.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Why mouton is so hell bent on the three year window, I'll never know.


Typical length of leases
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
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84306 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:33 pm to
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Typical length of leases


Oh I get it, it just does a really terrible job of illustrating the "point" he keeps trying to make.
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