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re: How enforceable are non-compete clauses in LA?

Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:54 am to
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:54 am to
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I'd be fishing in the same talent pool to find candidates.


This issue has less to do with a non-competition agreement than it would a proprietary information issue. It is likely (though you don't know because you don't have the agreement)that your agreement has some trade secret/proprietary information restriction relating to the candidates you dealt with. A general talent pool is probably not proprietary, their lists with their candidate pool probably is.

Pre-SWAT24, when you could not prevent someone from competeting against you in La. as an employee (in some circuits, there was a conflict that was resolved in the SWAT24 case), you could still keep an ex-employee from using proprietary information because it is not within the bounds of 23:921.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30290 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:54 am to
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I'm surprised they would not draft it to cover competition as a sales manager or salesman.



i don't understand it.
We had our service manager leave about 2 years ago and go to the 2nd biggest competitor in our territory and get a job at their corporate level. I don't get why it matters in what capacity i work for the competitor. If i'm with the competitor as a salesman, manager or whatever else, i'm still with the competition and can use that to my advantage.

regardless, i can't see a scenario where i say i will not sign a non compete going over well. Has anyone said no when asked to sign one?
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26005 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:55 am to
If you are working for a game development company and not using your former employer's lists of candidates, it seems unlikely that you sued (subject to all my prior disclaimers about legal advice).
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26005 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:56 am to
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Has anyone said no when asked to sign one?



I've had that happen. If it is employment at will (no written term employment contract) sometimes the employer backs down, sometimes the employee gets fired.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1724 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:57 am to
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I'm not sure what you mean.


If you're familiar with recruiting agencies you should know what I mean. Recruiting agencies hire contractors for plants, O&G work, etc. to work on a contractual basis.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:00 am to
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not using your former employer's lists of candidates
You mean CareerBuilder/Monster/LinkedIn/etc?
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:02 am to
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Recruiting agencies hire contractors for plants, O&G work, etc. to work on a contractual basis.

There is no difference between permanent placement and contract/contract-to-hire in terms of how the recruiters work. It's a matter of business model of the agency. I've worked for both... but the 'work' is nearly identical. I'm sure there's no difference between the two from an NC standpoint.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1724 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:03 am to
Contracts for contractors are certainly different than contracts for direct hire employees.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:05 am to
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Contracts for contractors are certainly different than contracts for direct hire employees.
Of course, but as far as the recruiter is concerned, they're not even a factor. You go about sourcing candidates the same way for both... Payment schedules are all negotiated and the scope of the engagement is obviously different, but from a recruiters perspective, it doesn't matter.
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1724 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:08 am to
I think you're missing the point I was making, but regardless...

You need to look at your own contract and see if it lists specific parishes. That's where it could be trouble for you.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12588 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:11 am to
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I'm hoping based on the current relationship being good and the fact that you just stated will make this all a non-starter.. just trying to be thorough...

I get it, but even if the relationship were awful, they still would be left without recourse.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I doubt you are worth the large expense of a fickle litigation process; few people are. Unless you're poaching accounts and employees, or are perceived as a legitimate threat to the business itself, you've got nothing to worry about.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36419 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:12 am to
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I think you're missing the point I was making, but regardless
I feel like we're both right in our own regard
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You need to look at your own contract and see if it lists specific parishes.
Agreed. And what Third Leg said makes the most sense to me
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