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re: How do you feel about spanking children?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:39 am to TheDoc
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:39 am to TheDoc
quote:Not if you don't spank out of anger and are already in control of the situation when the punishment is administered.
It teaches a child that it is OK to hit when you are angry or when you want to gain control of the situation.
quote:No, it teaches that the parent is in control and that there are consequences to actions.
It teaches a child that the bigger person is in control and that their worth and value is not in their own hands.
Somewhat similar to a coach making players run as discipline. It is a punishment that causes short term physical pain without injury that teaches that a certain behavior is not tolerated.
It has nothing to do with violence. That is hyperbole pure and simple.
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:39 am to TheDoc
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It teaches a child that it is OK to hit when you are angry or when you want to gain control of the situation. It teaches a child that the bigger person is in control and that their worth and value is not in their own hands.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:40 am to WDE24
How well can it work if you have to keep hitting them?
Honest question
Honest question
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:40 am to TheDoc
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Numerous studies have found that the destructive and far-reaching effects of spanking can follow a child long after the punishment has ended. Kids who are spanked are more likely to suffer from aggression, low self-esteem and low I.Q., and they also are more likely to suffer from substance abuse and domestic violence as adults.
I'm willing to be a lot of money that these studies are confusing spanking and beating
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:41 am to TheDoc
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How well can it work if you have to keep hitting them?
Honest question
can you not ask this for any type of punishment regarding children?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:42 am to TheDoc
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I have facts on my side. What do you have?
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Gunnoe’s findings, announced this week: “The claims made for not spanking children fail to hold up. They are not consistent with the data.”
Those who were physically disciplined performed better than those who weren’t in a whole series of categories, including school grades, an optimistic outlook on life, the willingness to perform volunteer work, and the ambition to attend college, Gunnoe found. And they performed no worse than those who weren’t spanked in areas like early sexual activity, getting into fights, and becoming depressed. She found little difference between the sexes or races.
Another study published in the Akron Law Review last year examined criminal records and found that children raised where a legal ban on parental corporal punishment is in effect are much more likely to be involved in crime.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:43 am to WDE24
Spanking leads to depression
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a recently released new study from the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg found that of 20,000 people who answered “sometimes” when asked if they had ever been pushed, grabbed, shoved, slapped or hit by your parents or any adult living in your house” while growing up were prone to the following:
The risk of major depression was 41 percent higher
The risk of mania was 93 percent higher
The risk of any mood disorder was 49 percent higher
The risk of any anxiety disorder was 36 percent higher
The risk of any alcohol abuse or dependence was 59 percent higher
The risk of any drug abuse or dependence was 53 percent higher.
Of course the after effects don’t end there; Studies have shown spanking leads to more aggressive children, and even makes children dumber. Close to 30 countries have banned spanking all together. In 1979 The United Nations adopted the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which covers everything from a child’s right to be free from sexual and economic exploitation, to the right to education, healthcare and economic opportunity. 193 nations have signed to enforce the treaty, but not the United States and Somalia. In fact only thirty U.S. states have banned corporal punishment in schools, while 20 — all in the South and West — have not.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 10:44 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:44 am to TheDoc
quote:Who says I have to?
How well can it work if you have to keep hitting them?
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Dr. Diana Baumrind of the University of California, Berkeley and her teams of professional researchers over a decade conducted what is considered the most extensive and methodologically thorough child development study yet done. They examined 164 families, tracking their children from age four to 14. Baumrind found that spanking can be helpful in certain contexts and discovered “no evidence for unique detrimental effects of normative physical punishment.”
She also found that children who were never spanked tended to have behavioral problems, and were not more competent than their peers.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:44 am to TheDoc
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How well can it work if you have to keep hitting them?
Who said I have to keep hitting him?
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:45 am to TheDoc
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Spanking leads to depression
quote:I found the disconnect.
pushed, grabbed, shoved, slapped or hit
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:47 am to TheDoc
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when asked if they had ever been pushed, grabbed, shoved, slapped or hit by your parents
:sigh:
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:49 am to WDE24
It destroys trust.
Children trust their parents just a little less. They build a self-protective shield around themselves in terms of relationships generally. Children increasingly mistrust the motives of others and become a more threat reactive. It leads to aggressive expectations—they are ready to aggress first before they are aggressed against.
Spanking is harmful for even more reasons, the review indicates:
Spanking destroys mental health.
Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior.
Spanking makes it more likely the child will be physically abused.
Children trust their parents just a little less. They build a self-protective shield around themselves in terms of relationships generally. Children increasingly mistrust the motives of others and become a more threat reactive. It leads to aggressive expectations—they are ready to aggress first before they are aggressed against.
Spanking is harmful for even more reasons, the review indicates:
Spanking destroys mental health.
Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior.
Spanking makes it more likely the child will be physically abused.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:50 am to TheDoc
quote:And I have shown you studies that show the exact opposite. So where are we now?
Spanking destroys mental health.
Spanking increases delinquency and criminal behavior.
Spanking makes it more likely the child will be physically abused.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:50 am to Salmon
We know a lot more about spanking now as the studies increase.
I guess I couldn't imagine hitting my kid to teach them a lesson or discipline them.
I guess I couldn't imagine hitting my kid to teach them a lesson or discipline them.
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:50 am to WDE24
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And I have shown you studies that show the exact opposite. So where are we now?
That study is bullshite
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:52 am to TheDoc
Just out of curiosity. What is their reasoning as to why kids can be spanked and not show any of those traits
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:52 am to TheDoc
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:52 am to TheDoc
quote:Do you think making a child run as a form of discipline is acceptable? Coaches have been effectively using that tool for a long time. It is a similar tool to spanking. Authority figure causes moderate short term physical pain, but not injury, to teach and correct.
I guess I couldn't imagine hitting my kid to teach them a lesson or discipline them.
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:52 am to TheDoc
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That study is bullshite
Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:53 am to WDE24
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making a child run
They have have to run if they don't want to.
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