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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?

Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:29 pm to
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You obviously have an infatuation with Europe, and other Countries. Have you ever taken the time to peruse their News sources ? You'd be very disheartened if you did because there's a LOT of violence that goes on around the world that is NEVER reported. All you'll see reported on our News outlets, regarding overseas News, is what they're told to report on that furthers the Agendas that they're pushing.

I haven't even mentioned "Europe" ITT. But Europe does seem to be full of civilized people that aren't as murderous as we.

I've travelled the developed world and have NEVER felt like my safety was at risk NEAR as much in other cities as American cities.

...well, maybe that one night in Marseilles. That was a little touch and go for a while.

I do remember stepping outside of a bar in Coober Pedy one night for a "blower". My friend followed me out and asked if I was okay. I said I was fine, just getting some air. He pointed out a group of young men in the shadows. "Locals" he called them. I said that I had seen them when I walked outside and asked if they were dangerous. "Well, yes" he said. "Do they have a gun?" I asked, "No," he said. "Do they have a knife?," I asked. "No." "Well, what, are they going to do, be mean to me?" And realizing that I had grown up in New Orleans, he realized it was kind of funny and we laughed it off.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44144 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:29 pm to
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So what is it?



Start here:

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:31 pm to
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Now do possession and permissive sale restrictions for firearms. They'll work as well they do for drugs. There is your 'feasible'.

What are you talking about? How do you propose restricting sale of firearms would make a difference at this point when there are enough guns already on the street for every man, woman and child to have one?

Your solution is not realistic.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9518 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:34 pm to
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So what is it?


Anything but guns is the answer apparently.

I've often wondered why in the heck you need to put a plug in a shotgun to limit you to three shells just to go duck hunting, but there is not a single limit for magazine restrictions for rifles or pistols.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4799 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:35 pm to
So the problem is the celebrity status granted by the media for these people?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:36 pm to
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I didn't say that. I said culture. Interesting you jumped right to that, with that language.




You're not fooling anyone.
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I'm talking culture.

Me too, American culture, we're violent. People get fantastically rich on selling violence in this country. We can't get enough.

Domestic Box Office For 2021
Rank Release Total Gross
1 Spider-Man: No Way Home $804,667,830
2 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings $224,543,292
3 Venom: Let There Be Carnage $213,550,366
4 Black Widow $183,651,655

Notice what all of the top grossing movies of 2021 have in common?
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4799 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Notice what all of the top grossing movies of 2021 have in common?


All based on Superheroes/Villians. So obivously we should ban superheros and villians
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53045 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:40 pm to
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All based on Superheroes/Villians

Further evidence of societal decay
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1705 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:44 pm to
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People get fantastically rich on selling violence in this country. We can't get enough.


Yes, but American movies have often promoted good vs. evil themes. Early American television was replete with Westerns showing cowboy vs. Indian shootouts. Kids would run around the neighborhood playing Cops & Robbers and "shooting" each other with sticks and cap guns.

Nobody was shooting up schools then. Something has happened in the last two decades, and that should be our focus.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:46 pm to
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All based on Superheroes/Villians.

More specifically, all based on fighting and violence. Although, in America, we prefer to call it, "action".
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So obivously we should ban superheros and villians

Why do you people always want to ban shite? I thought we were just talking.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62500 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:47 pm to
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What are you talking about? How do you propose restricting sale of firearms would make a difference at this point when there are enough guns already on the street for every man, woman and child to have one?
**Whooooooshhhh**

You questioned if hardening security of soft targets was feasible. I'm saying it's at least if not more feasible than any of the restrictions I listed.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53045 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:47 pm to
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Nobody was shooting up schools then. Something has happened in the last two decades, and that should be our focus.

We played with cap guns and other toy weapons a lot as kids. If anything they were much more common than they are now.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:48 pm to
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All based on Superheroes/Villians. So obivously we should ban superheros and villians

This dude is completely lost. He thinks semi auto rifles weren't a thing for civilians until the 90s.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:49 pm to
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We played with cap guns and other toy weapons a lot as kids. If anything they were much more common than they are now.

Same here. Cap guns, then super soakers (and we tried our damndest to make them look "real," then pellets guns, then paintball.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4799 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:50 pm to
Not sure what you are referring to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62500 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Nobody was shooting up schools then. Something has happened in the last two decades, and that should be our focus.
The difference is back then you had clear lines of good vs. evil. Today we're not supposed to criticize anything, and be tolerant of all sorts of anti-social adverse behavior.

It's much harder for a kid today to differentiate right from wrong, unless we're talking about Christians, or white males. Then it's easy. They're always evil.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:51 pm to
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Yes, but American movies have often promoted good vs. evil themes. Early American television was replete with Westerns showing cowboy vs. Indian shootouts. Kids would run around the neighborhood playing Cops & Robbers and "shooting" each other with sticks and cap guns.

Why are you trying to explain my childhood to me as if I wasn't there?

Yes, but not just "cowboys and Indians" but also "Cops and Robbers" as well as "Rat Patrol".

And then there were the rock fights we'd get into with the kids around the block. I'm telling you, I can sling a fricking Rangia shell.
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that should be our focus.


Where the hell have you been the last 23 years since Columbine? I'm pretty sure if we haven't wanted to figure it out in that time, we're not going to be doing it any time soon.

And please excuse the language, Mom, I don't mean any personal disrespect.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62500 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:53 pm to
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We played with cap guns and other toy weapons a lot as kids.
I my own .410 when I was in the 3rd grade.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:54 pm to
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**Whooooooshhhh**

It was your false dichotomy to which I was referring.
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it's at least if not more feasible than any of the restrictions I listed.

Link?

First you have to identify what all targets will be soft in the future - and then harden them before they're targeted.

Good luck with that.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:56 pm to
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Not sure what you are referring to

WildTchoupitoulas.
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