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re: Hot Take: The focus shouldn't be on abortion

Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:40 am to
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:40 am to
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but if men were forced to pay for their kids


I mean, they are

Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:42 am to
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Society does insist that. Your argument is with nature and practicality, not social or governmental enforcement mechanisms.


What society??? Certainly not ours. Many a child is living with a single mother while the father is out having himself a big old time doing it again and again and again....
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10820 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:42 am to
Life isn’t a video game. You don’t get to hit restart if you make bad decisions. All actions have consequences and people shouldn’t have to kill a baby because they made a bad choice and couldn’t use protection. The only legal abortion should be in situations that put the mom at significant risk.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
105929 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:42 am to
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Between free birth control, free condoms & 40.00 Plan B there is no excuse for an unplanned pregnancy (outside of rape / molestation cases)



The problem is, this isn't easily accessible everywhere.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:44 am to
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quote:but if men were forced to pay for their kids I mean, they are



Righhhtttttt…..LOL. That's why there are no kids on any sort of social welfare programs with fathers free to do what they will.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17082 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:47 am to
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but if men were forced to pay for their kids


Does child support no longer exist?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:48 am to
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quote:but if men were forced to pay for their kids Does child support no longer exist?


Oh yeah, it exists....it is a drop in the bucket to what it actually costs to raise a kid....a drop that is measured by men for men....
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38642 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:51 am to
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The problem is, this isn't easily accessible everywhere.


Name one place in America one or all of these aren't provided free or cheaply to the poor.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:56 am to
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That's why there are no kids on any sort of social welfare programs with fathers free to do what they will.


You can pay child support and still qualify for social welfare programs.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:57 am to
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Oh yeah, it exists....it is a drop in the bucket to what it actually costs to raise a kid....a drop that is measured by men for men....


BULL frickING shite.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
24815 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 10:59 am to
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And quit giving money for children. Amazing how many fewer babies would be born into poverty when you quit incentivising it


Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:05 am to
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quote:Oh yeah, it exists....it is a drop in the bucket to what it actually costs to raise a kid....a drop that is measured by men for men.... BULL frickING shite.


What are you calling BS on, that it is only a small % of what it costs or it is set by men for men? Both are true statements.

If it is the amount explain why so many kids are on public assistance and have fathers who are either paying or behind on child support. I have 2 kids and my wife and I make a damn good living. Those 2 kids cost us a fortune. I have known a pile of men paying child support. They all gripe about it, but the numbers the give me when I ask are miniscule compared to what we pay
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:06 am to
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Why as a culture are we promoting sex so much?



Oh this one is easy....name just one thing better
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69632 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:09 am to
It’s called a vasectomy, condom, or pull out

Sorry but I believe that any other male prevention method that were to develop would significantly lower men’s free testosterone resulting which results in further emasculation of men
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:11 am to
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Name one place in America one or all of these aren't provided free or cheaply to the


Hey everyone they are giving out cheaply made condoms that have a history of breaking....we solved it, its over now.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2140 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:11 am to

what's fricked up is people are desperately concerned with an unborn child, and after it's born much less concerned. Still concerned about them being abused, but much less about their general quality of life.

Kids that have trauma from being abused or trauma from neglect are dysfunctional and pass that along intergenerationally. So these very same kids born to these conditions, being molested destined for substance abuse, end up being the ones we shun, disown, put in jail. Rinse and repeat.


abortion is a horrible idea, but just an outcome of a dysfunctional society. Fix the real problem.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:13 am to
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Sorry but I believe that any other male prevention method that were to develop would significantly lower men’s free testosterone resulting which results in further emasculation of men



Oh the hypocrisy on this site. Do you have any idea how much female birth control fricks with their hormones? But yeah cool for them not for us dudes though f that.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69632 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:21 am to
I never said women didn’t go through that

Why are you emotional

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293528 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 11:43 am to
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The focus should be on preventing abortions by preventing pregnancy.


Preventing unwanted pregnancy ispretty goddamned easy.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58273 posts
Posted on 11/11/20 at 12:11 pm to
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I refuse to believe this many women are totally irresponsible and oblivious.
i guess you havent been around the block. Horny girls you being home from bogies whispering cum inside me.... that will change your tune.
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