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re: History of the Swastika; How does it parallel the Confederate Flag?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:31 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:31 pm to Tuscaloosa
You failed to mention the Nazi Swastika is the "opposite" of the buddhist swastika.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:31 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Posted by NYNolaguy1 on 6/26/15 at 12:15 pm to Tuscaloosa Anyone want to guess where this picture came from?
The internet?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:32 pm to tigerfoot
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what is the problem, can you define it for me.
yes...
renaming streets
taking down memorials to fallen soldiers
fricking with the Dukes of Hazzard
changing the side of Stone Mountain
etc., etc., etc.
the shite is retarded...and won't accomplish a damn thing but create greater divide...
"but that's the way he wants, so he gets it"
take the flag off of the damn capitol grounds...fine...but you can't erase history and you can't undo how people feel about where they are from and who their ancestors were...it's not going to work...
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:32 pm to tigerfoot
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I care about one flag, the American flag.
If people are offended by it, take it down.
Communist
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:33 pm to pankReb
quote:I really want to know more about this problem.
you don't agree with him so that makes you "a special kind of stupid"
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:34 pm to SthGADawg
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fricking with the Dukes of Hazzard
well bah gahd....thems worth fightin' fer!!!!
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but you can't erase history and you can't undo how people feel about where they are from and who their ancestors were
No one is doing that. You can fly your shitty flag as much as you want on your property. Absolutely no one is taking that away from you. Wanna make your own General Lee? well by all means....
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:35 pm to Tuscaloosa
There's no comparison. The swastika represents a regime who caused the deaths of millions of innocent people and caused the largest war in world history.
The CSA battle flag represented a nation in a civil war. Their regime was to defend their way of life. There was no SS or extermination camps. Most of the soldiers fought on the principle of defending their homeland rather than defending slavery. Only a fraction of people actually owned slaves in the first place, and it wasn't exclusive to southern states anyway.
In Nazi Germany, an entire nation was brainwashed by propaganda by an evil dictator to persecute and support the extermination of innocent people.
African slaves were originally exported around the world to be the workforce for new and developing nations. The British distributed slaves throughout their entire empire and the slaves brought into the US were used in agriculture.
Yes, slavery is very wrong and goes against the very basic human rights that all people should be treated with, but the two symbols can't be compared.
The CSA battle flag represented a nation in a civil war. Their regime was to defend their way of life. There was no SS or extermination camps. Most of the soldiers fought on the principle of defending their homeland rather than defending slavery. Only a fraction of people actually owned slaves in the first place, and it wasn't exclusive to southern states anyway.
In Nazi Germany, an entire nation was brainwashed by propaganda by an evil dictator to persecute and support the extermination of innocent people.
African slaves were originally exported around the world to be the workforce for new and developing nations. The British distributed slaves throughout their entire empire and the slaves brought into the US were used in agriculture.
Yes, slavery is very wrong and goes against the very basic human rights that all people should be treated with, but the two symbols can't be compared.
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:35 pm to Tuscaloosa
The civil was was definitely about slavery. But how do you know how many black people were part of the south that owned slaves and were just as much a part of seceding from the North? Do you know that the first legal slave owner was in fact a black man and had it not been for him, more than likely slavery would have not come about?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:37 pm to RB10
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You failed to mention the Nazi Swastika is the "opposite" of the buddhist swastika.
I believe both depictions have similar meanings.
I'm not 100% sure about Buddhism, but in Hinduism the left handed symbol represents Kali and good magic, and the right handed symbol represents the god Vishnu and the sun.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:37 pm to rmnldr
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In Nazi Germany, an entire nation was brainwashed by propaganda by an evil dictator to persecute and support the extermination of innocent people.
This insinuates the entire German nation was fine with exterminating Jews.
This also makes me completely ignore the rest of your post based on a complete lack of credibility. If you'd like to edit your post...then maybe I'll give it a slight bit of credibility.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Anyone want to guess where this picture came from
Spain
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:38 pm to SthGADawg
quote:no one is doing that, they are changing the present.
but you can't erase history and you can't undo how people feel about where they are from and who their ancestors were...it's not going to work...
quote:the horror! I bet you were absolutely beside yourself when cities got 911 access and fricked up the streets.
renaming streets
quote:so it wont accomplish anything...and that has you pissed off.
and won't accomplish a damn thing but create greater divide...
quote:Well you got me.
fricking with the Dukes of Hazzard
Now, please tell me the problem I am part of. Aside from you having to get new models of the General Lee.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:38 pm to rmnldr
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but the two symbols can't be compared.
And they shouldn't be. I wasn't trying to compare the symbols, but rather compare the evolution of their meanings in the eyes of the people.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:40 pm to tigerfoot
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Now, please tell me the problem I am part of. Aside from you having to get new models of the General Lee.
It's difficult for me to process the fact that someone would include this in a list of issues that they have. It makes me believe that someone is trolling. No way in hell could that be posted with a straight face.
maybe that'll piss someone off.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:41 pm to Tuscaloosa
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And they shouldn't be. I wasn't trying to compare the symbols, but rather compare the evolution of their meanings in the eyes of the people.
Some people don't have the ability to have a complex thought.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:42 pm to stbpike24
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Do you know that the first legal slave owner was in fact a black man and had it not been for him, more than likely slavery would have not come about?
Ehh... that's debatable. Perhaps he was the first legal slave owner by technicality, but African slaves had been in America since 1619. Sold to Jamestown Virginia by a Dutch man. Slavery in America certainly wasn't started because of him.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:46 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:46 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Do you know that the first legal slave owner was in fact a black man and had it not been for him, more than likely slavery would have not come about?
Ehh... that's debatable. Perhaps he was the first legal slave owner by technicality, but African slaves had been in America since 1619. Sold to Jamestown Virginia by a Dutch man. Slavery in America certainly wasn't started because of him.
This is like giving credit to the first bar to serve alcohol after Prohibition ended....
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:48 pm to Tuscaloosa
Knowledge is a beautiful thing and through education it CAN be accomplished. Indentured servants were brought into the country in 1607 and the first Africans were brought in 1619. However as indentured servants they worked for several years and then were given freedom and land to live the rest of their lives. This was until a black man named Anthony Johnson went to the court and got the right to keep his black indentured servant for life thus making him the first legal slave. This right was not given to white people until 5 years later.
The more you know****
The more you know****
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