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re: History in Pictures is a great twitter feed. Here is one just posted.

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Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:20 am to
The Ward's story has always been pretty cool to me. Her crew were mostly reservists and for 60 years, their claim of sinking the mini-sub was viewed with some skepticism. Then about 10 years ago, researchers found the sub with a 4" hole at the base of the conning tower - exactly where the Ward's crew said they hit it.

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He was sinking the USS Ward.

In 1944, the Ward had been converted to a fast attack transport and was part of the Leyte invasion. She was hit by a kamikaze and had to be scuttled by the USS O'Brien - whose commanding officer was William Outerbridge.



Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:23 am to
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In 1944, the Ward had been converted to a fast attack transport and was part of the Leyte invasion. She was hit by a kamikaze and had to be scuttled by the USS O'Brien - whose commanding officer was William Outerbridge.


Wow. What an ironic twist of fate. Thanks for sharing!
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:26 am to
Well times up. The gun in the picture is the British Ordnance QF 18-pounder field gun. This was the standard field gun of the British Army throughout WWI.

One thing of interest is the fact that the British and French both used fast firing flat trajectory field guns as the standard artillery piece for their armies while the Germans instead opted for a slower firing indirect fire howitzer for it's standard artillery piece. I find the difference in artillery employment doctrine on both sides interesting.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:26 am to
quote:

He was sinking the USS Ward.

In 1944, the Ward had been converted to a fast attack transport and was part of the Leyte invasion. She was hit by a kamikaze and had to be scuttled by the USS O'Brien - whose commanding officer was William Outerbridge.




Now that is interesting.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:29 am to
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When this gun was introduced tanks did not exist. However, it was sometimes used in a anti-tank role later on in WWII.


I'm going to guess some kind of British field artillery because you can see what looks like a WW1 British tank at the far left of the first picture.

It looks to be about 4" but since the British rated their guns by the weight of the shell, I've got no clue of the name or actual size.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:30 am to


What was this, what was it's purpose, and how was it used?
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:31 am to
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Now that is interesting.


I've always wondered if it was luck of the draw or if he specifically asked to be the one that "put down" his old ship.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:34 am to
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What was this, what was it's purpose, and how was it used?


That's a flechette. They were WW1's cluster bomb.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:37 am to
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That's a flechette. They were WW1's cluster bomb.


Correct. Imagine being in the trenches already having to deal with all the other stuff of living there and now hundreds of these come raining down on your head.



Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:45 am to
The same type of flechette rounds we use (or used to - my Uncle talked about them from Vietnam) fired out of howitzers? (I can't see the pick, but am thinking of flechette rounds...)
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:46 am to
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The same type of flechette rounds we use (or used to - my Uncle talked about them from Vietnam) fired out of howitzers?



Similar. But in WWI they were dropped from airplanes like little bombs.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:47 am to
Gotcha. I couldn't see the original pic. Some nasty stuff, there.
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:50 am to
OK, what is this (either name is fine)? User country?

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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:50 am to


Who is this guy and what was his role in WWI?
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:51 am to
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OK, what is this (either name is fine)?



Paris Gun

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User country?



Germany
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:54 am to
damn that's a dirty way to attack. dropping little heavy sharp ended hunks of metal on top of someone's head. that is dirty pool
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:54 am to
German?
Can't think of the name but weren't they used to bomb Paris?
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:03 am to
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damn that's a dirty way to attack. dropping little heavy sharp ended hunks of metal on top of someone's head. that is dirty pool


As opposed to the inherent fairness of dropping small balls of high explosive on someone's head?



Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:26 am to
Since we're talking WW1 and the subject of fairness has arisen, what are these?



Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:27 am to
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Since we're talking WW1 and the subject of fairness has arisen, what are these

Fousgas? (sp)
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