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re: History buffs - how would you rate the Vikings success at expansion?
Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:29 am to buckeye_vol
Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:29 am to buckeye_vol
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Unless he's done it already, maybe that can be one of Dan Carlin's next Hardcore History podcasts.
Give "Thor's Angels" a listen.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:34 am to SlowEasyConfident
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The Vikings were an original team not an expansion team. Fran Tarkenton was a great quarterback for them back in the day
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:46 am to Methuselah
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I think in Britain there have been a good bit of dna testing trying to attribute what peoples made contributions to the dna in different parts of the country.
IIRC they found a guy living nearly on top of a > 1000 year old archaelogical site who had the same DNA as found in graves at the site.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:41 am to Jim Rockford
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IIRC they found a guy living nearly on top of a > 1000 year old archaelogical site who had the same DNA as found in graves at the site.
I love tidbits like that. That's one family that stayed close to home.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:17 am to biglego
Wut? Nothing you said is true.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:24 am to biglego
The Saxons were invited. The Roman Britons brought the Saxons in as mercenaries to help fight the Picts and Celts who were probing Hadrian's Wall now that Roman reinforcements were basically out of the question as Gaul was collapsing due to invasions by the Franks, Goths, and Huns among others.
Saxons were allowed to bring their families, and eventually rose up against the Britains when they stopped paying them.
Saxons were allowed to bring their families, and eventually rose up against the Britains when they stopped paying them.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 11:27 am to Methuselah
results of DNA test came back 49% scandinavian. Vikings colonized almost every country in Northern Europe, Normans from France went over and took over Britain, Northern Germany settled by vikings, Russia too. Only place they didn't dump goo was southern europe. Prolly banged some injun grrls on trips to north america. Much of US settled by Northern Europeans with viking DNA.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 12:40 pm to Mung
Vikings had to kill all of the cavemen, so that makes it hard to gauge
Posted on 3/10/17 at 12:48 pm to Methuselah
I had a double major in history and English lit.
they did well enough in the UK that many Norse words are in the English language now.
Obviously lots of DNA too.
Whenever I have some horrible bodily ailment that is solved by modern medicine, I think about the Norse. I suspect a lot of mayhem was due to old farts just being quite ready to die, rather than endure the painful degeneration of the body that age and disease confers.
they did well enough in the UK that many Norse words are in the English language now.
Obviously lots of DNA too.
Whenever I have some horrible bodily ailment that is solved by modern medicine, I think about the Norse. I suspect a lot of mayhem was due to old farts just being quite ready to die, rather than endure the painful degeneration of the body that age and disease confers.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 3/10/17 at 12:50 pm to Methuselah
very successful I would say. basically anything north of manchester england has viking touches including town names and genetics. Vikings also went east and down the Danube to what is eastern Europe as well.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 12:50 pm to Mung
I believe the Vikings did travel to the Mediterranean and even Turkey, though more as mercs than independent parties.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:57 pm to Mung
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Only place they didn't dump goo was southern europe.
The Normans conquered Sicily about the time they invaded Britain.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 3:23 pm to Mung
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results of DNA test came back 49% scandinavian. Vikings colonized almost every country in Northern Europe, Normans from France went over and took over Britain, Northern Germany settled by vikings, Russia too. Only place they didn't dump goo was southern europe. Prolly banged some injun grrls on trips to north america. Much of US settled by Northern Europeans with viking DNA.
They actually did go to Southern Europe.
They were pretty pivotal in pushing Arabs off of Sicily and southern Italy and turning what had been a mostly Byzantine Orthodox population towards Catholicism.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 3:31 pm to LSshoe
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I believe the Vikings did travel to the Mediterranean and even Turkey, though more as mercs than independent parties.
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The Varangian Guard (Greek: ???µa t?? ?a??????, Tágma ton Varángon) was an elite unit of the Byzantine Army, from the 10th to the 14th centuries, whose members served as personal bodyguards to the Byzantine Emperors. They are known for being primarily composed of Germanic peoples, specifically Norsemen (the Guard was formed approximately 200 years into the Viking Age) and Anglo-Saxons (after the Norman Conquest of England created an Anglo-Saxon diaspora, part of which found employment in Constantinople).
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 4:07 pm to AUCE05
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Wut? Nothing you said is true.
Everything I said is true.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 7:07 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Yeah, they did have a working relationship with the Byzantine Emperors for a long time. Both trading with the empire and then, as said above, as mercenaries in the Byzantine armed forces.
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