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re: Helena Moreno and JP Morrell are introducing legislation to ban on all STR in New Orleans
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:11 pm to baldona
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:11 pm to baldona
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I would bet a large portion of the STR's in Nola were crappy properties no one was willing to buy due to the ROI of long term tenants not making sense
You would lose that bet. Are you saying the lower garden district and the Bywater aren’t “true residential neighborhoods”?
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:16 pm to tgrbaitn08
So they want to kill tourism? The only thing keeping the shitehole city alive
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:23 pm to tgrbaitn08
If you own a home that you rent out in New Orleans, they can make all the laws they want, if there is a supplier and a demand, they will find each other and make it happen through other avenues.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:26 pm to Dizz
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You would lose that bet. Are you saying the lower garden district and the Bywater aren’t “true residential neighborhoods”?
Do tons of residence live there? Absolutely. But they aren't true R-1's, argue all you want. How many of those homes have a commercial business next to them? Tons!
People love to complain about STR when they have, like I said, a gas station, restaurant, grocery, etc. within eye sight. You can't bitch about the STR on your left when you have a grocery on your right.
If you want to label a city block as R-1 residential, do it. I don't have one issue with eliminating ALL business from that area. But stay true to that. Don't allow anything in that area.
My issue with NOLA is while these blocks do exist, there are not nearly as many of them without a single business as people like to admit.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:30 pm to baldona
Most of those businesses, which aren't nearly to the level you are portraying, are grandfathered in.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:34 pm to ibldprplgld
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I’m a proponent of locally owned and operated STRs, but the out-of-state LLCs and investors buying up homes simply for STRs do need strict regulation, IMO.
Would you say the same about owning non local hunting land? What about non local fish camps? Non local beach properties?
So is your point of view no one should own a 2nd home? I'm just curious why this should only apply to NOLA?
My issue with all of this is that NOLA DOESN'T have a housing issue. There's plenty of housing, its just where people think they don't want to live.
You start restricting where and who can buy things, and its a VERY slippery slope.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:35 pm to fightin tigers
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Most of those businesses, which aren't nearly to the level you are portraying, are grandfathered in.
Lol, what the hell does that mean? What if someone is renting out their grandparents home as a STR but they live in Houston or Metairie or the north shore?
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:40 pm to baldona
Long term residential leases/rentals are not commercial businesses.
And multi-family residential doesn't make it commercial.
And multi-family residential doesn't make it commercial.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:47 pm to fightin tigers
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Long term residential leases/rentals are not commercial businesses.
And multi-family residential doesn't make it commercial.
Fine, sure. So the argument is that servers, bartenders, and other service industry staff can't afford to live there? The argument is that they would make better neighbors?
Has anyone ever worked in a restaurant or service industry? I have, for almost 10 years through HS, college, and until I was married as a night job. I wouldnt want to live next to the average bartender and a roomate, or 3 cooks, or whatever you think would live there that can't afford it now.
I'm not local to NOLA, so I don't have a dog in the fight.
I do however hope that no one that lives in NOLA and hates on STR's also owns a fish or hunt camp. Because I wouldn't want to live next to someone that owns one of those either.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:48 pm to soccerfüt
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she’d get a D.
I think she deserves a B
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:49 pm to baldona
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I do however hope that no one that lives in NOLA and hates on STR's also owns a fish or hunt camp. Because I wouldn't want to live next to someone that owns one of those either.
Even Grand Isle has rules and laws on STR's because the locals dont want to live next to weekend warriors.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:51 pm to baldona
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. I wouldnt want to live next to the average bartender and a roomate, or 3 cooks, or whatever you think would live there that can't afford it now.
Hmmm, why would you not want to live next to them?
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Fine, sure. So the argument is that servers, bartenders, and other service industry staff can't afford to live there? The argument is that they would make better neighbors?
You also realize the huge gap in affording a long term rental and affording STR prices. Right? I couldn't afford to live full time at STRs in my neighborhood.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:52 pm to fightin tigers
If I was a bartender, nurse, doctor or anyone that worked nights and/or early mornings.....I wouldnt want to live next to a STR
Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:53 pm to baldona
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How many of those homes have a commercial business next to them? Tons!
Not many of these homes are next to commercial business. The handful of restaurants or corner stores in the middle of a neighborhood have been there for years. The city wouldn't let you open a store or restaurant in those locations anymore.
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I'm not local to NOLA, so I don't have a dog in the fight.
Some of your statements have made that clear.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:00 pm to tgrbaitn08
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If I was a bartender, nurse, doctor or anyone that worked nights and/or early mornings.....I wouldnt want to live next to a STR
Lol, and that's the entire issue with this dumbass argument. You are clueless.
So bartenders and night shift wouldn't want to live next to a STR because those people are out partying when they work and sleep in?
You know who a night shift and bartender hate to live next to the most? The guy that mows his lawn at 7am or rides a motorcycle to work at 6am. The normal guys.
ETA: in a city dying of industry and in need of tax dollars, I don't see why you would complain about people that are bringing in income, paying taxes, oh and keeping up the local properties. Most threads here are people wanting to move away, and yet we have a thread that pisses on the few people trying to keep that area up. You just cant have it perfect. Kicking out a group working hard to keep a property nice in an area otherwise struggling just seems like a damn bad idea to me.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:02 pm to baldona
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baldona
You've really proven that you're an idiot in this thread.
I would assume you've never lived in a city or town with more than on redlight
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:03 pm to baldona
What the frick are you yammering about now?
Different work schedules have nothing to do with STRs.
Different work schedules have nothing to do with STRs.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:09 pm to baldona
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in a city dying of industry and in need of tax dollars, I don't see why you would complain about people that are bringing in income, paying taxes,
God damn you're a fricking moron....look at the cities balance sheet then you might want to rethink your dumbass response
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in a city dying of industry and in need of tax dollars,
Give examples
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:33 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Give examples
NOLA's issues with housing isn't mostly because of STR. Fine, they are an issue. I'll agree. Its not your main issue, and stopping them won't help a damn thing. NOlA's issues with housing is people don't want to live there.
STR's rent for more than long term leases, you guys are right. But you know who pays more for a home than someone that wants to be a landlord? Someone that wants to live there.
And no want wants to live there.
Posted on 9/7/23 at 3:37 pm to baldona
Thanks for admitting you're wrong once again and providing stats from almost a decade ago
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