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re: HA burns police truck after cops refuse to move it from in front of his business

Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:49 pm to
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Why is a reason needed? Did any other nearby stores complain?

1. Another store owner or nearby resident wanted a police presence
2. The cop lived near there
3. The cop walked a beat in the area
4. The cop was investigating someone in the area
6. The cop was on a bender or slumming with a mistress in the area
5. It was a good parking spot and the cop followed the rules of the street regarding maximum parking time

Cops aren't required to hide in the shadows and pop up when a crime is committed. Simply existing in view of someone who hates cops is not harassment, objectively. This is a ridiculous argument, and I think this is the only very specific instance where you would make it.


The only ridiculous argument here is the one you're trying to make. I must admit though I find your mental gymnastics in the defense of the cops rather impressive though.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:50 pm to
Something else to note, this all happened within a day, based on my understanding of the article (they parked on Tuesday and the article was written on Tuesday).

So this guy burned a car down within a day because cops parked in front of his store? That seems reasonable.


eta: excuse me, NEAR his store. Apparently, the second this legitimate businessman sees a cop, he feels harassed and we should be empathetic to his decision to light their car on fire.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 4:52 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:53 pm to
I googled "Skin Deep Tattoo on King St. in Newton"

Is this going down in Australia?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Something else to note, this all happened within a day, based on my understanding of the article (they parked on Tuesday and the article was written on Tuesday).

So this guy burned a car down within a day because cops parked in front of his store? That seems reasonable.



The article was written on the 9th. It says the truck had been parked there "since Tuesday"....

quote:

Police had parked a patrol car near Orrock’s tattoo parlour Skin Deep on King St, Newtown, since Tuesday, moving it approximately every two hours, the court heard.


and he went to the police station to complain on a Friday.

quote:

Documents tendered during Orrock’s bail application say he went to Newtown police about 3am on Friday and said “you f***** move that car right now…you f****** move it right away or otherwise I will burn it down.”


And that's when the cops told him they'd not move it....

quote:

When police told him the car wouldn’t be moved, Orrock allegedly said “well you’d better be down there in 15 minutes to arrest me then” while making a stabbing motion with his index finger.


What purpose would the cops have to keep this truck parked in front of his business for days on end and tell him they had no intention of moving it? Please give me a legit reason for keeping this tuck there other than to harass him and hurt his business.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:00 pm to
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Please give me a legit reason for keeping this tuck there other than to harass him and hurt his business.


There is no legit reason for you. I gave you plenty of viable options and you called it mental gymnastics. What's the point in playing your game when you are the opposition and the referee?

I also don't know how things go down in Australia. It looks like the main street in a commercial/residential area. They could have been just monitoring their area of town and found a good central parking spot.

Did you know this was Australia? Do you know police protocol over there?
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:06 pm to
Of course you would, even more so if you were a crack dealing gang member running a tattoo parlor as a front
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:08 pm to
Either this guy has a habit of burning down police cars and saying the exact same thing every time, or he did this in 2012.

LINK
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:16 pm to
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Scott Orrock, 49, who police believe was the head of the bikie club

This sounds so much less intimidating.
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