re: German Justice for SS Guards

The thing most people don't seem to understand, is that not all concentration camps were camps of mass killing. This was relegated to about 6 camps in Poland. The VAST majority of the German concentration camps were simply camps to concentrate peoples who couldn't be allowed to roam German territories during wartime without being monitored for whatever reason the German state determined on an individual basis. They were detention camps. There was no promotion or celebration of killing Jews put forth to the public or to the military.

Of the so called "extermination camps" in Poland, some were massive (Auschwitz) and encompassed large work camp sites. Likely very few guards or camp personnel would have been involved in any killing operations and there were a great number who were not even German, thus they would have been widely dispersed in the chaos of the war's end.

My advice is not to get your information and conclusions from entertainment history programs whose primary goal is to keep you watching and not to provide full context and perspective with academic tone and objectivity.

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I find it even more evil that the holocaust has turned into a multi bullion dollar industry.

There have been dozens of genocides the past few centuries yet only the holocaust gets all the attention. It's because those who were victimized in the holocaust hold loads of worldwide political, media, and financial power

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Dead on. All we ever here is "muh 6 trillion". Why don't we ever here of the Armenian genocide? Or the russian genocide done by Stalin. Unlike the holocaust there is actual proof of those.

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Germany back then was just one big cult. They so dehumanized the jews (and others) it was just like killing roaches. Doesn't surprise me at all

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Watch "hitler and the nazis" on Netflix. I never respected the power of a cult leader before watching that. I assumed the whole country was full of evil people. But the systematic brainwashing took years and was scary to see that much footage. Makes the publicized Koresh and Jones cults look like child's play.

The Holocaust was bad and shouldn't have happened or ever happen again. Trying to excuse it by saying the media didn't cover other ones or make movies about them is like Charles Manson saying "there were hundreds of other murders, why is everyone looking at me?"


Is it just Devil's Advocate internet-frickery? Please say yes.

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I assumed the whole country was full of evil people.

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This pretty much renders any of your subsequent opinions pretty meaningless.

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This is not a German phenomenon. It was a worldwide phenomenon.

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In Europe at least, violent anti-Semitism predated Nazi Germany by centuries. In fact, hatred of the Jew was well established in Germany and throughout Europe by the time Hitler took power in 1933.

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the problem is one of monopoly and the exclusion of non-Jews via the self-promotion which predominates in most of today's Jewish-controlled America. If a Jew is up for a job against a non-Jew, and the one doing thehiring is Jewish, gets who gets the job.

Since Jews stick together as a group, they pull and shove each other up the ranks of corporations and pull strings ensuring members of their race are given first shot at student openings in the major universities and top jobs throughout the areas of their dominance in every type of business imaginable.

Bryant also wrote that in 1929 Germany, in law and medicine, Jews were vastly over represented. In Berlin in 1931, 42% of the city's doctors and 48% of its lawyers were Jews.

In this 50-minute video, a former SS man is interviewed about his experiences working at the Treblinka death camp. Horrifying stuff, and to think, Treblinka was a relatively small death camp, used among other things to test different methods of murder, with the most efficient methods later adopted at Auschwitz.
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I don't know about the camp guards, but as the rank got higher, so did the Allies' interest in bringing them to justice. Far from every guilty officer was tried and condemned, but several major trials were held in Germany, Poland, and in Russia.

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Many in those camps were also killed indiscriminately.

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Many in those camps were also killed indiscriminately.

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How many? And under what authority?

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In spite of the many atrocities alleged to have been committed in the concentration camps, the Nazis did not officially sanction cruelty to the prisoners. All punishments and executions had to be cleared with the main office in Oranienburg. An SS officer named Dr. Georg Konrad Morgen was put in charge of investigating cruelty and black market activities in the camps. Col. Koch had been engaging in both of these crimes, and he was eventually arrested in August 1943 for inciting the murder of two prisoners and for embezzlement. According to The Buchenwald Report, the murder charge against Col. Koch was based on the accusation that he had ordered the execution of hospital orderly Walter Krämer and his assistant, who had treated Koch for syphilis, so that they would not reveal his secret. According to the charges, Koch had falsely claimed that the two men were executed for political reasons.

Ilse Koch and Dr. Hoven were also arrested by Morgen in August 1943 for mistreatment and murder of the prisoners. After a six-month investigation, Karl Otto Koch was condemned to death on both counts of murder and embezzlement, but his wife was acquitted of these charges. The charge of making lampshades from human skin had been withdrawn by Morgen for lack of evidence.

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SS Hauptsturmführer Alexander Piorkowski was the 6th Commandant of Dachau, replacing Hans Loritz. Piorkowski was dismissed for being too harsh and was expelled from the Nazi party because of his cruelty to the prisoners. Piorkowski was executed by the Allies after being convicted by an American Military Tribunal at Dachau.

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Undoubtedly there was cruelty carried out arbitrarily at these camps, which is an obvious flaw in any system where immense discretionary power is offered to low level officials with little oversight. Factor in that much of this occurred amongst the one of the most barbaric, inhumane, and total wars for survival ever fought and one can understand that policing these cases was not necessarily a top priority for resource allocation by the German state.

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For instance, there were 32,000 recorded deaths at Dachau concentration camp. Thousands more occurred but we do not know the exact number because the Germans didn't keep track of all of the numbers. Another 56,000 were killed at Buchenwald.

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Are you suggesting that all of these deaths were deliberate murders? They were clearly recorded as a matter of policy, no?

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These prisoners weren't just sitting there playing bridge until the Americans liberated.

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Nor did anyone suggest such a thing.

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There were no gassings or cremations at Buchenwald and the Germans kept meticulous records

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That doesn't mean no one died there, dumb arse. They were either shot or died from disease/malnourishment.

German records show that 56,000 died at Buchenwald and another 32,000 died at Dachau.