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re: Georgia covid getting hot
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:01 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:01 pm to BamaAtl
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Social distancing was to buy us time to ramp up testing, contact tracing, and hospital capacity. We've only done the last of those.
You don’t think we have enough tests? That tells me you are not high up in healthcare. We have absurd amounts of testing and it’s increasing every day.
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:02 pm to WaWaWeeWa
i imagine Bama will be saying we need an insane figure of testing, like the 20M/month i saw reported a week or so ago
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:04 pm to TIGRLEE
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Which part of keeping people that are at highest risk at home and lettering everybody else get back to it is a bad thing?
Those circumstances make it difficult over a medium to long period of time to ensure that the highest risk won't come into contact with someone who's infected, and become ill themselves.
That being said, 'highest risk' is still nebulous at this stage - we've seen otherwise healthy individuals, no known risk factors, die from this in our ICUs. We know a lot of the risk factors, but we haven't yet nailed down a definitive way to know who's going to be definitely impacted and who's going to walk away free and clear.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Even if I was sick I wouldn’t get tested. I don’t want to give JBE another reason it keep economy closed if it comes back positive
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:06 pm to BamaAtl
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we've seen otherwise healthy individuals, no known risk factors, die from this in our ICUs
How many? Dozens nationally?
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well we have ramped up testing since social distancing started
We've begun to ramp it up, but are nowhere near the levels needed to accurately track infections statewide (or nationwide, but beside the point here).
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testing and contract tracing is only something to help with actue areas who are facing critical care capacity issues.
Any place not adequately practicing social distancing is at risk of becoming an acute area facing critical care capacity issues within 2-4 weeks. Are we prepared to handle those when they pop up? Of course not.
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what is the ultimate plan here?
Buy time for proper testing/tracing infrastructure, and for treatments currently undergoing trials to pass safety/efficacy checks and come into practice (if they work).
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:06 pm to BamaAtl
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That being said, 'highest risk' is still nebulous at this stage - we've seen otherwise healthy individuals, no known risk factors, die from this in our ICUs. We know a lot of the risk factors, but we haven't yet nailed down a definitive way to know who's going to be definitely impacted and who's going to walk away free and clear.
we know who is the highest risk
when did the standards become "ANY potential risk"?
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
We did 8,000 tests in LA today. That’s 1,739 per million people.
Those numbers equate to 565,000 per day for the country. Or 16.9 million per month for the country.
So we are already performing close to those levels and I know for a fact we are not maxed out using all the tests we have.
Those numbers equate to 565,000 per day for the country. Or 16.9 million per month for the country.
So we are already performing close to those levels and I know for a fact we are not maxed out using all the tests we have.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:09 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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You don’t think we have enough tests?
I know we don't. Georgia has conducted tests, total, for less than 2% of the population since the outbreak began. And a good % of those tests are repeats to rule out false negatives or verify results from other health systems.
It's telling that you think we've tested enough when every single person involved in it says we need much more.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:11 pm to BamaAtl
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We've begun to ramp it up, but are nowhere near the levels needed to accurately track infections statewide (or nationwide, but beside the point here).
we never will be. there aren't enough reagents in thew world to supply the hundreds of millions of tests needed for that
that isn't just an American problem. that's going to be a major issue everywehre over time
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Any place not adequately practicing social distancing is at risk of becoming an acute area facing critical care capacity issues within 2-4 weeks. Are we prepared to handle those when they pop up? Of course not.
after what we know from NYC and Nola? and California? i think the risks are pretty low
i mean risks are low of the hospital systems being overrun
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Buy time for proper testing/tracing infrastructure,
to do what, exactly?
testing/tracing is s small part of the plan, but not the plan itself.
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and for treatments currently undergoing trials to pass safety/efficacy checks and come into practice (if they work).
see, a plan would give a time frame for this. what is the time frame for this policy? 1 month? 6 months? a year?
i'm being serious. at what point, in the plan, do we agree that has gone on too long? same with vaccines
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm convinced it's purging people of a genetic makeup which can't handle it. Like any other 'plague'.
We're in different times now, and many are email and Facebook asshoes.
We're in different times now, and many are email and Facebook asshoes.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:13 pm to BamaAtl
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but are nowhere near the levels needed to accurately track infections statewide
You actually think we can test and trace? That’s hilarious.
Most of the cases are asymptomatic and there are cases EVERYWHERE. Have you interacted with our state health departments? I don’t feel confident they could track a single case. Not to mention certain people aren’t going to cooperate
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we know who is the highest risk
We have a good indication of 'higher' risk - there are still numerous cases that defy that logic. It would be foolish to open the gates except for 'high risk' while we still don't fully understand who that group contains.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:13 pm to Dandy Lion
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I'm convinced it's purging people of a genetic makeup which can't handle it. Like any other 'plague'.
if you're not over 60, and/or obese, and/or diagnosed from hypertension, and/or suffering from diabetes, i imagine your chance of death is less than 1/100,000
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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see, a plan would give a time frame for this. what is the time frame for this policy? 1 month? 6 months? a year?
Would be nice if we had a competent state or federal administration to define this, but we have who we have.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:16 pm to BamaAtl
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We have a good indication of 'higher' risk - there are still numerous cases that defy that logic.
do these "numerous" cases exceed 10%? 5%? 1%?
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It would be foolish to open the gates except for 'high risk' while we still don't fully understand who that group contains.
you're being purposefully obtuse to be overly negative and fearmonger
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
I know a self professed 'specimen of perfect humanity' that was infected, and spent two weeks in hospital.
He's a shell of himself, emaciated, and gets winded going to the mailbox and back.
He's a shell of himself, emaciated, and gets winded going to the mailbox and back.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:16 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Have you interacted with our state health departments? I don’t feel confident they could track a single case.
They do a decent enough job that we aren't all over-run with latent TB.
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:16 pm to BamaAtl
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Would be nice if we had a competent state or federal administration to define this, but we have who we have.
to my knowledge, no country or NGO has spoken of a comprehensive plan
*except Sweden
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:16 pm to BamaAtl
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Would be nice if we had a competent state or federal administration to define this, but we have who we have.
Meaning if Democrats were in control everything would be ok.
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