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re: From 2010-2020, downtown Baton Rouge's population grew faster than Ascension Parish.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:43 pm to kingbob
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:43 pm to kingbob
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Downtown BR is safer than Perkins Rowe...by a LOT
“A LOT” is an over exaggeration but whatever
This is totally true compared to past years though:
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Downtown BR looks like little new orleans. Downtown library is a homeless shelter. People sitting on the streets asking for money. Deadbeats just hanging out
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Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:47 pm to mikelbr
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Bengal Tap Room Replaced Punchers. It's doing pretty well. They have better than average bar food and a regular crowd.
Bengal Tap Room
I heard it's owned by the same people that own Ivar's.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:41 am to IvarsRegular
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heard it's owned by the same people that own Ivar's.
Partially.
Co-owned by Brad Watts and Chad Hughes.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:55 am to mikelbr
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Only lawyers and bitches care about a cocktail menu. You ole poon!
I try to leave the swill for you. Keeps you loose and pliable
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:18 am to Joshjrn
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As long as that stays strong, I'm not concerned about the overall momentum of downtown.
They tend to patrol it very well.
Downtown Baton Rouge needs more things like the Garth concert to pack the hotels full of paying visitors.
ETA: and no more lockdowns for Covid. That hurt a lot of downtowns across the country.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 7:20 am
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:38 am to supadave3
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Already? That just opened about 5 years ago. I was abandoned forever before that.
Supposed to be an expansion and a big upgrade.
You wouldn't pay Hotel Indigo prices to have 5 year old Holiday Inn finishes and layout would you?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:55 am to supadave3
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I know that it’s part of large ownership group that involves a number of other entities downtown. I would assume the hotels are their bread and butter while they get the business lunch of the day.
The emphasis on redevelopment in Baton Rouge did seem to move towards mid city since Covid hit. But the Holden era brought a lot of investment downtown that resulted in a significant increase in residents and hotels. And it seems to be following the nationwide trend of converting older office buildings and banks into hotels/condos/apartments. The rent on most of those new apartments isn't cheap, and they don't seem to have problems keeping them filled.
Certainly having all those residents and hotels is going to help keep the area viable, and helps support the restaurants and bars down there. It might be beneficial to upgrade the River Center to try and attract more business conventions that can help supply a small stream of visitors outside of football season.
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Hopefully, something can breathe some like into BR because it seems to be struggling.
That's the post-Covid trend nationwide. I think Baton Rouge is doing better than most downtowns that are more exclusively geared towards office users - mostly because it was always a smaller market for speculative office construction. And developers were already several years into a trend of converting older offices to hotels and apartments when Covid hit. So it didn't really have a huge vacancy issue with office users when Covid became a thing.
I travel a lot for work. I used to judge downtowns by how easy it is to get an Uber, and how far I have to walk to find a decent restaurant. Things aren't what they were before Covid in most towns I've been too.
Been going to Minneapolis a lot lately. I'm shocked at how many restaurants that still have a storefront, but are closed...or feature truncated hours. And there are a lot of empty restaurant and retail spaces with "for lease" signs. So I end up just having a drink and dinner at the hotel restaurant lately instead of going out because there's far less to do in downtown Minneapolis this year than there was the last time I was here in 2017.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:14 am to fallguy_1978
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I expect it to continue to grow because of office space being converted to residential. Outside of the state government and law offices I can't think of too many large businesses downtown anymore.
Downtown was never a huge market for the bigger businesses in Baton Rouge outside of the huge amount of state government offices....or at least not since I've been alive. The bigger HQ's were off Essen, Sherwood, or elsewhere in south Baton Rouge. Downtown was always a lot of regional bank HQ's, a lot of law firms, and some smaller/mid sized HQ's.
State Government is a huge office user there. I know there is a huge amount of law offices. There are a handful of auditing companies (PWC and Deloitte have offices there) and of course IBM has their IT consulting/service center downtown. Mapp is around there. Albermarle still has something there, but it's not the HQ anymore. Cane's has an HQ in the IBM building.
That's all I can really think of, and it does amount to a fairly low vacancy rate relative to the downtowns of other cities that size.
I think some of the regional institutional/engineering firms have been slowly moving into the Water Campus. Lemoine and APTIM are there now, along with some LSU related stuff and a research institute. But that's not really downtown IMO.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:17 am to dewster
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That's the post-Covid trend nationwide.
Downtown BR started slowing down before covid. The Broome vs. Delgado pissing match had a hand in that.
I didn't mention it earlier but, Jimmy John's quit opening at night and Canes closed for good. Those places used to be full of late night party goers on top of their steady lunch crowd. That doesn't seem like a good indicator of downtown health.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:22 am to kingbob
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visited a bad neighborhood
Why would anyone do that?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:35 am to facher08
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Downtown BR started slowing down before covid. The Broome vs. Delgado pissing match had a hand in that. I didn't mention it earlier but, Jimmy John's quit opening at night and Canes closed for good. Those places used to be full of late night party goers on top of their steady lunch crowd. That doesn't seem like a good indicator of downtown health.
Because it’s growth is artificial. People don’t live down there.
People do live in Mid City, and you’ve seen the results.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:00 am to In The Know
That doesnt meet this boards measurement of
truth....."Do I want it to be true"
truth....."Do I want it to be true"
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