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re: France’s Special Forces Hunt French Militants Fighting for Islamic State

Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:14 am to
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:14 am to
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I'm of the opinion that you capture them and try to get as much information out of them as possible


I agree. My statement was a simplistic one. Intelligence is more important than the satisfaction you think you may get in an act of revenge.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139226 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:18 am to
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I'm pretty sure France's post 9/11 terrorism death tool is less than 100

130 were killed in the Bataclan theater attack alone.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33866 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:21 am to
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It's never too late to put up a fight.


I just think they are looking in the wrong spot.

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Smh. Military action in a democratic society is EXACTLY what we are fighting against. You fall into a trap of becoming more like your enemy in order to defeat them. And defeating them is a lot tougher than just shooting them. It's an idea we are fighting against.


I get what you are saying and agree to an extent. You dont go overseas to fight someone that is standing in your backyard. These guys are moving freely. Need to catch them, save the resources and flush out the rats on the homeland. Let them blow themselves up elsewhere.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78024 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:31 am to
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I dare say that the situation was a little more complicated as in there being tens of thousands of people being persecuted and needing a place to go.
That doesn't make it more complicated.

They let their emotions guide them to the wrong outcome.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41380 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:34 am to
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ISIS will be 30 clicks past the Rhine in a fortnight



No way. The Maginot line will stop them.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:41 am to
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That doesn't make it more complicated.

They let their emotions guide them to the wrong outcome.


Being a free country comes with problems. The laws that protect our citizens also protect criminals and terrorist. The question is how far are you willing to erode your compassion and ideals to make sure you aren't scared of the boogeyman.

And I do have a problem with thinking that boarders are effective in the fight against terrorism. The internet has made homegrown terrorist more of a threat than any radicalized jihadist trying to enter the country. Ideas can be passed from around the world in a heartbeat. Most of our terror comes from our own citizens.

Boarders may deter the less than enthusiastic jihadist, but I tend to think if you're willing to die for a cause then an imaginary line ain't going to do shite to stop you. Time to start fighting the war of ideas and not the war of territory like our grandfathers.
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