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Foundational historical events

Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:48 am
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:48 am
I think that certain historical events are foundational, meaning you can't understand any given topic without first understanding the foundational, historical reason for why they are the way that they are.

For example, the foundational historical event in American history is secession and the Civil War. There is no way to understand American society without first understanding the Civil War.

The foundational historical event of Western Europe is the Protestant Reformation and resulting wars of religion.

In a similar way, the foundational event of the Twentieth Century was actually not the World Wars, but was in fact the rise and fall of the Soviet Union. If you do not understand the rise of revolutionary bolshevism/communism, you cannot understand anything about the Twenetieth Century.

The foundational historical event of the 21st century is and will be the rise of China and the relative decline of the Anglosphere.
Posted by JonTigerFan11
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:52 am to
The shite I took this morning was a foundational historical event
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 10:57 am to
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The foundational historical event of the 21st century is and will be the rise of China and the relative decline of the Anglosphere.


White people have been worried about their demise for centuries. There's been writings from ancient writers speaking of this. I heard an interesting take on it once, that's the reason why, for the most part, every place white people dominate is mostly successful. I mean overall, where the majority of white people live, as in countries, there's little crime, economies are good, and they are pretty successful.

Now I'm speaking, countries as a whole, not isolated parts of a country. You can go to Appalachia and find mostly white people living in poverty. Overall U.S.A, Australia, England, etc have been very successful countries, as are your smaller, mostly white countries.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
28119 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:13 am to
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In a similar way, the foundational event of the Twentieth Century was actually not the World Wars, but was in fact the rise and fall of the Soviet Union. If you do not understand the rise of revolutionary bolshevism/communism, you cannot understand anything about the Twenetieth Century.
Is that not directly related to the World Wars?
Posted by heatom2
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:14 am to
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Is that not directly related to the World Wars?


Right?
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:32 am to
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Is that not directly related to the World Wars?


I agree they're intertwined in that you could argue World War I led to the Russian Revolution, which in turn led to World War II.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:13 pm to
Without googling dates (check me?) and without going too far back, here’s my European Impact list...
I’m leaving out a few.

313 - Constantine’s acceptance of Christianity
476 - The Fall of Rome
613 - Islam
711 - Muslims conquer Spain
787 - The Battle of Tours
840 - The Treaty of Verdun
1066 - William conquering England
1215 - The Magna Carta
1348 - Height of plague
1453 - The Fall of Constantinople
1517 - Protestant Reformation
1573 - the Battle of Lepanto
1607 - Jamestown
1688 - The Glorious Revolution
1789 - The French Revolution
1815 - The Congress of Vienna
1848 - Continental Revolutions
1871 - Unification of Germany
1914 - WWI
1939 - WWII
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:15 pm to
These are minimal “must know” dates to develop a good base for historical knowledge and understanding of how the world came to be...

Sadly, few care.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:36 pm to
One thing we both left off is the development of the atomic bomb which I’d call the most significant military event in human history.
This post was edited on 7/5/20 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:55 pm to
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For example, the foundational historical event in American history is secession and the Civil War. There is no way to understand American society without first understanding the Civil War.

The foundational historical event of Western Europe is the Protestant Reformation and resulting wars of religion.


I would argue that the colonial secession and Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence are more foundational for the current status of the world than these two events.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159142 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:56 pm to
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For example, the foundational historical event in American history is secession and the Civil War. There is no way to understand American society without first understanding the Civil War.
Actually the "foundational" event in American history is the Western expansion.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:57 pm to
Indeed. You can also argue that the 1948-49 flash points between US and USSR moved us into irreconcilable territory for decades to come.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 7/5/20 at 12:59 pm to
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you could argue World War I led to the Russian Revolution


The Russian Revolution was coming regardless. WWI probably hastened it and made it easier to overthrow Nicolas II
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 1:00 pm to
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the relative decline of the Anglosphere.



This always happens between foundational events. We get bored and lazy and allow the weak among us to lead us around by the nose until something important comes along and requires our attention.
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