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re: Ford, GM, Mercedes come clean on EV demand weakness
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:21 am to Capital Cajun
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:21 am to Capital Cajun
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I live in DFW and I’ve noticed a huge increase in EV’s over the last two years.
quote:So folks are realizing the infrastructure isn't available, it's not worth it, and charging actually cost money and their response to this is to...checks notes...go out and buy EVs?
I think folks are realizing that the charging infrastructure isn’t available right now and it’s not worth it & that charging actually cost money.
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Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:45 am to SG_Geaux
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The government wants to turn us into a 3rd world country so they can have complete control
Wasn't there a politician in New Orleans that said this about EV's?
"You may not be able to go on vacations like you used to."
Posted on 11/2/23 at 10:59 am to member12
It is simple, really. Those that would most benefit from an EV can't afford them. I'd drive one because of my daily commute, but in the long run I wouldn't be saving money due to up front cost and battery replacement.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 11:57 am to Locoguan0
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battery replacement.
One of the more misunderstand inputs to everyones ROI calc. When do you think you'd need to replace the battery and how much do you think it'll cost when you do?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:08 pm to shel311
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11 year old Tesla Model S cars are still selling for $30-35k, you're just making shite up right now and you've done exactly zero research. You're repeating shite you read on the OT that is factually incorrect.
I'm looking at a 2013 Model S on Manheim auction site right now that has an average wholesale on it pf 10,500.00 so I think you are full of it that they are retailing for 35k.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:21 pm to Shankapotamous
Just looked on auto trader at 23 results. The most expensive one was $29,995. It seems most at around $15k-$20k. So, yeah...bullshite.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:26 pm to Shankapotamous
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I'm looking at a 2013 Model S on Manheim auction site right now that has an average wholesale on it pf 10,500.00
Surprised it's that high. At 10 years old the batteries will need replacing soon, and that appears to be $20K plus.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:28 pm to kywildcatfanone
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At 10 years old the batteries will need replacing soon
That really depends on too many factors to make a judgement call. Just check the degradation the dash.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 12:28 pm to member12
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The government is pushing EVs but consumers don't seem to really want them yet
No shite? Has the government ever pushed something the people do want?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:14 pm to EmmittLBrown
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Has the government ever pushed something the people do want?
Telecom, upstream, midstream, downstream all pushed by the government at different times in their industry evolution.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 1:32 pm to Puffoluffagus
quote:I've had an EV for 4 years as well as an ICE vehicle in that same time.
Yeah anyone relying on charging at charging stations etc. Will quickly find out that it's just as expensive if not more expensive than filling up with gas.
I've never once paid more to charge than I did to tank up the ICE vehicle that gets gas a 1/4 of a tank.
To go a step further, the most I ever paid to charge in one sitting is $15. I've never once got a full or 3/4 tank of gas for $15 in that same time. So the most expensive possible charge is still cheaper than the cheapest possible filling up on gas encounter.
quote:This is false.
You're only going to get charging "savings" charging at home
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 1:34 pm
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