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re: Flock camera news out of God’s country

Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
4286 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 1:09 pm to
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These Flock cameras aren’t hitting live DMV databases. They are hitting hit sheets of stolen vehicles, amber alerts and BOLO.


And they also see a pattern that results in interagency communication and being detained without probable cause. So there's that also.
Posted by Gimme back that fish
Member since May 2010
431 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:04 pm to
Misuse of Flock is a bad thing.

Flock is an excellent tool if used correctly.
Posted by Gimme back that fish
Member since May 2010
431 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:04 pm to
Misuse of Flock is a bad thing.

Flock is an excellent tool if used correctly.
Posted by Breauxsif
Washington
Member since May 2012
24033 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:16 pm to
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These Flock cameras aren’t hitting live DMV databases.

It depends on the jurisdiction, some police departments choose to integrate state DMV or Department of Transportation (DOT) databases into their local software environment. If an agency sets up these integrations, the system can automatically cross-reference a passing license plate against state records, thus PII is pulled and stored into the cloud service provider for the agency.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24732 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
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FLOCK is collecting all this info as a third party non-governmental organization and then selling that info to other private organizations.


Again Fock isn’t the only company doing it. Motorola has a subsidiary called vigilant solutions doing the same thing. They actually have the world’s largest commercial plate database in the world.

Cell companies sell your data to marketing firms every day. When a retailer wants to look at moving into a new area they can buy cell data that shows the comings and going of people to gauge traffic patterns to the area.


This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 5:54 pm
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24732 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 5:57 pm to
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It depends on the jurisdiction, some police departments choose to integrate state DMV or Department of Transportation (DOT) databases into their local software environment. If an agency sets up these integrations, the system can automatically cross-reference a passing license plate against state records, thus PII is pulled and stored into the cloud service provider for the agency.


Most states won’t allow it because they can’t handle the traffic from the camera systems. It’s why they hit a downloaded hot sheet.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
110315 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:04 pm to
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If Flock and similar companies are breaking no new technological ground that advances the surveillance state beyond what it is already capable of, why the push for these new systems? We don't need them if everything it does is already being done. It offers no advantage, per you and others who share your opinion. Therefore, it has to be a waste of taxpayer money on a needless system that is at best wholly redundant.

Why do we need it?


Not only this but my argument would be that has Flock (and similar systems) proven at this point that the data can be safely housed and accessed appropriately? If they are, why are we seeing daily news about their data being compromised or not being able to be accessed by the appropriate people/in the appropriate framework

It came out here in Louisville and Lexington not too long ago that the Federal government is also accessing Flock cameras, which is a huge issue as well. As well as "out of state agencies".

quote:

According to the Lexington Police Department, the system logged roughly 7 million searches between January and July 2026. Police stress that figure does not represent 7 million unique license plates or searches conducted solely by Lexington officers.

The system operates as part of a nationwide network, allowing law enforcement agencies across jurisdictions to search for vehicle information. As a result, searches conducted by agencies outside Lexington can contribute to the overall total.


FOX56 news article on number of searches and who is accessing Flock
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6741 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:19 pm to
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All of these people ppl e that are outraged don’t realize their every day activities are being monitored just by driving around with the smart phones on


This is the dumbest argument, yes EVERYONE knows they are being tracked by their smart phone. The difference is we knowingly consent to that. We have a choice in the matter, we can carry a flip phone or not have one at all.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
105380 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
42082 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:02 pm to
LOL
Posted by Breauxsif
Washington
Member since May 2012
24033 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 11:39 pm to
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Most states won’t allow it because they can’t handle the traffic from the camera systems. It’s why they hit a downloaded hot sheet.

Wrong, roughly half of U.S. states have active database frameworks capable of handling automated connectivity through the DMV to look up when a plate is scanned, the registered owners drivers license status, thus PII, insurance and registration status, and driving history in real time. You clearly don't understand the nuances of how cloud computing works and traffic can be distributed through load balancer and network security group architectures.

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