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Fighting a traffic ticket in Houston

Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted by studentforlife
Member since Jun 2013
81 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:54 pm
I turned left onto Brazos from Elgin when I didn't see the "NO TURNS" sign underneath the traffic light that is roughly 30x12. The sign is significantly smaller than mandated by the Texas Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, which states the minimum size is 36x36. LINK-(page 46 Movement Prohibition sign)

Anyone have any experience fighting a traffic ticket in Houston? Any idea if this would be enough to contest the ticket?

Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:56 pm to
If you feel spending hours upon hours at the courthouse contesting your $200 ticket is a cost effective use of your time, then go for it.

If you have evidence, you may win, I won as a young 20 something in BR many years ago, but you'll never get that 7 hours of your life back.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:57 pm to
LINK

hope this helps
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18289 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:59 pm to
If you're sure it's not at least 36x36 I'd fight it. But you better be certain it's too small and that you're looking at the right page in the MUTCD (I didn't click your link)
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79194 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:00 pm to
Go have a chat with the city council. Although they are all full of shite, maybe one of them will have their staff look into the sizes of the signs.

quote:

30x12


Pretty sure all the No Turn signs here are rectangle (like you've claimed) so how are they mandated to be 36 x 36?
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6015 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

If you feel spending hours upon hours at the courthouse contesting your $200 ticket is a cost effective use of your time, then go for it.

If you have evidence, you may win, but you'll never get that 7 hours of your life back.




this, fought a stop sign violation, prosecutor only took people willing to plead guilty and make a deal, and I waited all day. At the end of the day, I was told that I had to come back because they were closing...or pay $25, no record.

I was actually innocent, the guy in front of me was over the line, I was behind the line, stopped, so I just went without rolling two feet and stopping again.

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42670 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:01 pm to
Don't Mess With Texas
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11107 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

If you feel spending hours upon hours at the courthouse contesting your $200 ticket is a cost effective use of your time, then go for it.

If you have evidence, you may win, I won as a young 20 something in BR many years ago, but you'll never get that 7 hours of your life back


THIS. I got a ticket near Washington once for "failing to stop at a stop sign", when there was not any stop sign. I went back and took pictures and all and contested and won (I was also a young gun at the time, so I had time on my hands). But MSMHater is correct, it's not worth the wasted time and bullshite you have to go through. Unless you have the time, and feel like going through the process, I suggest you just pay the fine and go about your business.
Posted by The Cow Goes Moo Moo
Bucktown
Member since Nov 2012
3506 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:05 pm to
What did the traffic ticket ever do to you ya big bully?
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:06 pm to
Freaking millenials..Nothing is ever their fault. And stay off my lawn.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted by studentforlife
Member since Jun 2013
81 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure all the No Turn signs here are rectangle (like you've claimed) so how are they mandated to be 36 x 36?



The NO TURNS sign is labeled R3-3 in the manual.

quote:

Movement Prohibition (R3-1,2,3,4,18,27) - Conventional Road **Multi-Lane: 36x36

** State Maintained conventional roadways should use Multi-Lane as standard.
Notes: 1. Larger signs may be used when appropriate.


Maybe they are just old?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31913 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:16 pm to
I am unfamiliar with any typical regulatory sign with an oddball dimension like 30x12.....I'm sure theres one in the MUTCD/TMUTCD but it'll be an off application.

Unless you got in a bucket truck and measured it, I'd be careful spouting off to a judge or clerk.

Just pay the fine and move along.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31913 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Maybe they are just old?


that's your best bet
Posted by studentforlife
Member since Jun 2013
81 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Freaking millenials..Nothing is ever their fault. And stay off my lawn.



It's not about fault. It's about money. I'd rather keep mine.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79194 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Maybe they are just old?


Not surprising. Everything is outdated in Houston. Including the skanky womenz.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:21 pm to
Yes the cop didn't show up and they threw it out
Posted by studentforlife
Member since Jun 2013
81 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

If you feel spending hours upon hours at the courthouse contesting your $200 ticket is a cost effective use of your time, then go for it.



It's probably not worth my time if it really will take 7 hours. I was hoping to knock it out in an hour or 2. Though if I pay it and don't want it to be reported on my recored, it requires taking an online class as well. Not really sure how long that will take.
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:26 pm to
You should pay in pennies.
Posted by studentforlife
Member since Jun 2013
81 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Yes the cop didn't show up and they threw it out



How long did you have to wait for him to show up?
Posted by studentforlife
Member since Jun 2013
81 posts
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

You should pay in pennies.



I paid Riverside Towing in nothing but change once because f*ck those guys and everyone associated with them.

Not going to ruin some random city of Houston employee's day just because I didn't see a sign.
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