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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:09 pm to whiskeyjohn
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ISIS claims affiliation with just about every group... even the Toyota Tacoma owners group.
That would be the Toyota Hilux group if you were in the region of the sandbox.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:09 pm to fr33manator
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The llama and the M&P 15 ( the s&w) are rifles.
M&P 15? Yes. The other rifle is a DPMS.
The pistols were identified as a Smith and Wesson (which I suspect is an M&P pistol) and a Llama. Llama is a Spanish brand known for inexpensive pistols.
ETA: And I'd wager doughnuts to dollars the chambering of both rifles was 5.56mm NATO.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:10 pm to Ace Midnight
Yes and I believe Llama only make pistols.
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:11 pm to Ace Midnight
3rd person was not a suspect. Possibly just running off when all the gunfire was taking place. They found out he did have an outstanding warrant for a misdemeanor so he did get arrested....haha
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:12 pm to Ace Midnight
I'm just recalling what I heard at midnight. May have been drunk
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:13 pm to fr33manator
There were no gopros or cameras
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:14 pm to tigerskin
Then why was that reported?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:15 pm to fr33manator
He said that was wrong and just a rumor. Hesaid he did read that people were saying that
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:16 pm to fr33manator
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I'm just recalling what I heard at midnight. May have been drunk
Fair enough.
2 rifles - S&W M&P 15 (which is a MForgery), in 5.56mm Nato. DPMS, ditto (they're the Panther brand black rifles) (ETA: I said Snake earlier, but that's Bushmaster).
2 pistols - Llama (again, one of these things is not like the others) and a Smith & Wesson pistol (unknown model - I still suspect M&P or M&P Shield - this is Smith's take on the Glock striker fired design).
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:17 pm to ninthward
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and need to pay more attention to what you lib brethren have been saying.
This is partly what is wrong with the American political system, mainly Republicans. I am not liberal I'm a centrist. I mostly vote Republican. But conservatives (liberals too) have become so extreme that my moderate, objective beliefs are seen as kooky liberal bullshite.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:19 pm to Ace Midnight
I distinctly remember hearing .223
But since you can shoot .223 out of 5.56 they may have just had .223 ammo lying around and that's where that number came from.
That M&P 15 is a good gun. I hav-...had one until I lost it boating.
But since you can shoot .223 out of 5.56 they may have just had .223 ammo lying around and that's where that number came from.
That M&P 15 is a good gun. I hav-...had one until I lost it boating.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:20 pm to fouldeliverer
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I'm a centrist. I mostly vote Republican.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:22 pm to fr33manator
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I distinctly remember hearing .223
Everyone makes that stupid mistake. (And not you, baw, but you already admitted to being drunk, probably, and missed that Llama is a pistol - I'm sure they said it - they're saying .223 today. They're just wrong on the rifles. An AR in .223 would likely be a special order that has statistically zero volume in the market.)
This is the almost same thing as calling a .357 magnum a ".38 special" weapon.
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they may have just had .223 ammo lying around and that's where that number came from.
Maybe they had a mix, but I suspect they had mostly 5.56mm bulk ammo. I don't believe they had thousands of rounds of .223 Remington ammo. I'm open to being proven wrong.
SAAMI does not consider them the same chambering and there is only 1-way cross compatibility.
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:24 pm to Ace Midnight
I have no idea who I'd vote for in upcoming election but I certainly am not clambering to vote for Hillary. No way in hell i would vote for Trump. Cruz is too radical for me.
Increasingly Republicans have swung too far to the right, it's hurting them nationally and it makes me less likely to vote for them in future. But in past I have mainly voted Republican.
Increasingly Republicans have swung too far to the right, it's hurting them nationally and it makes me less likely to vote for them in future. But in past I have mainly voted Republican.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:25 pm to fr33manator
.223, and 5.56 are basically the same round. If I remember correctly the AR-15 is chambered as 5.56. You can shoot both rounds out of it. A .223 is a civilian round. If you have a .223 chambered rifle you cannot however shoot 5.56 out of it. Gun experts feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:25 pm to fouldeliverer
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Increasingly Republicans have swung too far to the right
Far right like John McCain, Mitt Romney, and George W Bush?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:27 pm to fouldeliverer
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I have no idea who I'd vote for in upcoming election but I certainly am not clambering to vote for Hillary.
The fact that she is your default vote says it all.
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Increasingly Republicans have swung too far to the right
Utter bullshite. My views would make me a liberal in 1955 - pretty far to the left, at that. Today, things have swung so far to the left, I'm considered to the right of Attila the Hun - but keep pushing that narrative.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:27 pm to biohzrd
my sig shoots 556 and 223 but i'm not sure if i have to mod it or not. i use 223. it accepts NATO mags though
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:27 pm to dewster
Bush himself was not extreme but he let neo-cons in his cabinet and the VP to dictate policies too much. So in the end yes he became quite right wing.
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