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re: Father/Son dumpster shooting of neighbor murder trial. Dad GUILTY. Son NOT GUILTY
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:In Texas..... have you?
Have you read the relevant statutes?
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:03 am to CarRamrod
quote:
In Texas..... have you?
Yes, in many states. I also used to teach them.
That's why I asked you the question.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:03 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
You should get your eyes checked. It 100% is.
My bad. I misread what you had said. I was thinking you were saying before the guy had the bat...not the actual act of throwing it.
I remember in the initial thread about this that him with the bat wasn't on video.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:06 am to CocomoLSU
quote:the bat is not on video, the video does pan back up to him throwing that bat after he was shot.... what the video doesn shoe is what is the dead guy doing with the bat before the shot....
My bad. I misread what you had said. I was thinking you were saying before the guy had the bat...not the actual act of throwing it.
I remember in the initial thread about this that him with the bat wasn't on video.
Looking at the witness statement, he was trying to swing the bat at the guy....
So back to the case, it is crazy the decision is split..
And again I called this... Sorry lunch..
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:wait...... arent you the guy that said a 250$ lower is in the budget category?
Yes, in many states. I also used to teach them.
That's why I asked you the question.
yea your word is shite. Based on that, I dont believe you. 
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:08 am to CarRamrod
quote:
the bat is not on video, the video does pan back up to him throwing that bat after he was shot.... what the video doesn shoe is what is the dead guy doing with the bat before the shot....
Irrelevant. Fatdad had his finger on the trigger before the dead guy was ever armed. You don't get to start the confrontation with a weapon against an unarmed guy that is outnumbered and then claim self defense. Especially when you shoot first.
You're just pissed off because you attempt to dunk on me with my alleged nonbelief in freedom blew up in your face.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:08 am to CarRamrod
quote:
250$
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:10 am to LNCHBOX
quote:where is the video of the start of this confrontation?
ou don't get to start the confrontation
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:10 am to CarRamrod
quote:
the bat is not on video, the video does pan back up to him throwing that bat after he was shot.... what the video doesn shoe is what is the dead guy doing with the bat before the shot....
Looking at the witness statement, he was trying to swing the bat at the guy....
So back to the case, it is crazy the decision is split..
Right, it's hard to know exactly what happened since it's only partially caught on video. But it seems like guns were used once he had the bat in his hands (based on shots and the bat throw being so close together), then I guess the son walks because he didn't shoot until after the hat was thrown (better self defense evidence maybe?).
I honestly thought that if anybody would be guilty it would be the son, but I had that arse backwards. But again, after shots were fired we didn't see anything really, so we don't know if the son's shot was egregious or necessary (from a self defense standpoint).
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:11 am to CarRamrod
quote:
where is the video of the start of this confrontation?
There's more than just the video, you fricking halfwit. Not wasting my time on you anymore.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:11 am to LNCHBOX
quote:typical move to run to being a grammar Nazi when you are losing.
250$
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:12 am to LNCHBOX
quote:so you have not proof.... that fine you are a bitch. You always come int these topics and spew conjecture. sometimes you are right, a lot of times you are wrong.
There's more than just the video, you fricking halfwit. Not wasting my time on you anymore.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:13 am to CarRamrod
quote:
arent you the guy that said a 250$ lower is in the budget category?
You'd have to link that, but I'd bet you're misrepresenting what I said.
Either way, thanks for confirming that you're talking out of your arse. You haven't read the relevant statutes, but feel free to do so now.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:16 am to TitleistProV1X
quote:
Shocking that people thought these two would both get off with nothing. They approached someone with guns drawn for dumping trash in an alley and kept dating him to make a move while talking shite. All three are garbage and the only way this story could’ve ended better is if the son also got locked away for life. 2 out of 3 ain’t bad though I guess
Thank you. I rather not live in a society where this type of behavior is acceptable. Self defense shouldn't be you can intimidate and encourage an emotionally unstable person into giving you a reason to end their life.
I guess convicting one was some sort of conflicted happy medium. I'll take that over no consequence at all.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:20 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:so you did? Yea....it was you.....
You'd have to link that, but I'd bet you're misrepresenting what I said.
Either way, thanks for confirming that you're talking out of your arse.
quote:i dont believe you have either.
You haven't read the relevant statutes, but feel free to do so now.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:23 am to CarRamrod
quote:
so you did? Yea....it was you.....
Should be easy enough to link it.
quote:
i dont believe you have either.
That's nice for you.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:59 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
Right, it's hard to know exactly what happened since it's only partially caught on video. But it seems like guns were used once he had the bat in his hands (based on shots and the bat throw being so close together), then I guess the son walks because he didn't shoot until after the hat was thrown (better self defense evidence maybe?). I honestly thought that if anybody would be guilty it would be the son, but I had that arse backwards. But again, after shots were fired we didn't see anything really, so we don't know if the son's shot was egregious or necessary (from a self defense standpoint).
Yeah my thought was the guy began to swing at dad, who began shooting, he threw the bat, hence then unarmed and son shot him. The proximity is hard to tell but looks close enough to be a viable threat? Maybe it was found to be farther. Also maybe the time element for the son shooting was deemed close enough to be the same series of actions, i.e., didn’t have time to stop and assess.
We’ll see what happens on appeal. Juries can obviously be guided by all kinds of things.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:05 am to LNCHBOX
I have nothing to add to this thread other than the fact that the fat son reminds me of super humman from super humman TV show
And yes, that’s how he spells ‘human’. He was on tosh.0
And yes, that’s how he spells ‘human’. He was on tosh.0
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:00 pm to TheRouxGuru
quote:
super humman
Fcking legend
WOOP WOOP!!!!
Posted on 1/27/23 at 2:17 pm to jaytothen
Maybe the sons shot didn't hit him?
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