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re: Father and son arrested after killing catalytic converter thief
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:47 pm to wadewilson
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:47 pm to wadewilson
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-all the thief defenders in this thread
I don't think anyone is defending the thiefs. It's against the law. We don't agree with it but I'm definitely not gunning someone down who stole something from me and they're running away. My delicate arse is not going to jail.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:49 pm to bayoumuscle21
quote:Well, or robbery would universally become murder and robbery. How many street murder cases get closed successfully?
If thieves were constantly killed in the act, theft would almost cease to exist entirely.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:54 pm to cheobode
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I don't think anyone is defending the thiefs.
Of course nobody is. We're just saying it's dumb to throw you're life away for killing a fleeing thug.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:59 pm to BayouBlitz
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Of course nobody is. We're just saying it's dumb to throw you're life away for killing a fleeing thug.
And others are saying it's dumb to get in trouble for doing society a favor and taking out the trash
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:06 pm to magildachunks
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These guys are what you would call "Middle" of the Political Spectrum.
Waaaay underrated reply.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:41 pm to xiv
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Killing a person for stealing is worse than stealing. The person who steals has the right to live for his fair and speedy trial. None of this is up for debate.
Post your fricking address.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:56 pm to USMCguy121
This isn’t grindr, chief.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:13 pm to HubbaBubba
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We need to see section 9:41
You must meet 9:41
AND
All that other stuff
Use of Google escape you?
No, but i will have to charge you $ 50, Venmo, if i have to go finish your post.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:51 pm to jeffsdad
quote:Good question. My guess is that would not be justified, unless they were in their own home, business, or vehicle when he started driving towards them. Also could be justified if he was driving at them intending to hit them, rather than just trying to get away. Generally, you don't have a right to stand your ground as a pedestrian in the street (or even in your driveway). You would be expected to try to get out of the way of the vehicle before shooting at the driver.
What if they stood in front of his car and he started driving towards them?
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:05 pm to dolamite
quote:Then he should have insisted they write it that way. Right or wrong, he didn't.
dolamite
Adams was 100% correct when he said that our Constitution (and the Bill of Rights) was wholly designed for a people of faith and morals and was inadequate for a people who wasn't.
And look where we are today! No reason to wonder why either.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:07 pm to Barbellthor
quote:It has absolutely no bearing on these facts.
Or home. Or business.
And?
And your original argument was it's a defense of property law. It's not.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:34 pm to VADawg
quote:I could go around my city Dexter-style and systematically kill all the child molesters. I would be making the world much better. Right or wrong, I would also be convicted of many murders.
Father and son made the world a little bit better.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You big a-hole
You poor innocent child.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:31 pm to Gravitiger
Gather ‘round and listen, everyone. Our moral superiors who justify murder are virtue signaling about stealing!
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:44 pm to KnB Purple
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If you think material possessions are more important than a human life I don't know what to tell you.
Of course a human life is worth more than material possessions. The problem is the thieves didn't understand that and felt it was worth risking their life to obtain said material possessions.
It seems your problem is that you under the impression that this series of events was the fault of the party that reacted, not the party that acted.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:08 pm to Basura Blanco
No it’s the property owner’s fault for committing murder. If you have to murder to protect your possessions, you’re living beyond your means.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:11 pm to xiv
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People who disagree are subhuman savages.
People who call people subhuman savages for disagreeing with them are subhuman savages. And people who disagree with me on this are.....yeah....subhuman savages.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:19 pm to yaboidarrell
Killing someone who is committing felony-in-progress should be 100% legal. Let the courts deal with them if they're discovered only once the deed is finished.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:21 pm to xiv
quote:
Killing a person for stealing is worse than stealing
Well that's between you and your conscience.
quote:
The person who steals has the right to live for his fair and speedy trial. None of this is up for debate.
And the person(s) who are charged with a crime for shooting a thief had a right to not have their property stolen and also has the right to a fair and speedy trial. None of this is up for debate.
And I would add, the jury of his peers part when preaching about a fair and speedy trial.
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