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re: Everyone’s fingerprints are different but there is no God?
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:01 am to dgnx6
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:01 am to dgnx6
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What about the people who are generally good and just not exposed to your God? What about the ones that do and continue to commit crimes against humanity?
People who are not exposed are not damned. There are still plenty of those people on this planet. Same applies to children/babies who pass before having an opportunity to know Him.
As for those who know Him and continue in sin, there are various arguments for this, but I think it’s pretty simple. We all backslide and make mistakes. We always will because it’s our nature. But for those who claim to be saved, but continue to take up a lifestyle of sin, then they have truly not known Him. Once you do, you make an effort to change. You’re convicted and compelled to be better than who you were. You don’t always succeed, but you don’t commit mass murder, either.
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These religions took extreme active recruitment from men. Mortals. Literally creating death in it's wake.
Misguided MEN took up these efforts, not God. It’s important to recognize the difference. Religion has been responsible for some heinous things in history. But religion is generally made up of flawed people. It hasn’t been and isn’t always representative of God.
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:45 am to S1C EM
quote:that would make sense, but that's not what the scripture says fwiw. Accepting Jesus is a requirement.
People who are not exposed are not damned. There are still plenty of those people on this planet.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 8:50 am to Rust Cohle
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I wish there was a God. An omnipotent being watching over me and giving me comfort. It would be to good to be true.
There is, most people don’t understand putting your trust in God/becoming a Christian/existence of God doesn’t mean you will no longer have any problems. God isn’t Santa clause or a genie in a bottle. He brings peace in the midst of trouble. We still live in a fallen world and will experience troubles. He is the anchor In the storms. Peace isn’t happiness, God can give peace during the storms of life. For a Christian, we realize this world is the only hell we will ever know and one day Christ will come again and redeem his creation. For a non- believer this fallen, corrupt, sinful world is the only heaven they will ever know.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 8:59 am
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:01 am to GaDawg9977
Mods deleted at first mention of God.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 9:48 am to castorinho
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that would make sense, but that's not what the scripture says fwiw. Accepting Jesus is a requirement.
The scripture does not address the specific topic, you’re correct. This has always been what I’ve been taught and that sentiment has not wavered between various pastors whom I have heard address it. I think what we know of God and His nature tells us this. And remember, the scripture is describing those who HAVE heard the gospel.
Perhaps of use:
Deuteronomy 29:29:
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The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
As with all things related to God and His will, there are things we do not and will never know. We also cannot hinge OUR faith on what we can’t answer. We who have heard are accountable for what we do next. The rest is up to Him. That’s faith.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:49 pm to S1C EM
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But religion is generally made up of flawed people. It hasn’t been and isn’t always representative of God.
Yeah, see, you can't say that really.
Because
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There are still plenty of those people on this planet. Same applies to children/babies who pass before having an opportunity to know Him.
Means billions will be born and die without the Word. So it leads into God being a dick for no reason to billions of people that aren't in on it. Which leads to do those people even have souls or were they created by God as just placeholders. Which feeds into the whole God is either useless, neglectful, or evil quote.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 2:23 pm to ZappBrannigan
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Means billions will be born and die without the Word. So it leads into God being a dick for no reason to billions of people that aren't in on it. Which leads to do those people even have souls or were they created by God as just placeholders. Which feeds into the whole God is either useless, neglectful, or evil quote.
Again.....if you’ve heard the gospel, then you are responsible for what YOU do from that point forward and for reaching others with that same message. Only God knows how he handles those who have not been exposed to the message. That’s not for you or I to concern ourselves with. I know who God is and while no one can say for certain how He handles these questions, I know Him not to be any of the things you describe. So I trust that he takes care of those people. And yes, they absolutely have souls. I’m not sure how that’s a question.
You either have faith in God’s character and His love for His creation or you do not.
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