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re: Epstein autopsy finds broken bones in neck
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:20 am to BayouCatFan
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:20 am to BayouCatFan
Why would any young lady sign her own death warrant. Even a clueless bimbo knows about Clintoncide
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:21 am to PearlJam
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Though not impossible. It isn't as unlikely that people, knowing he had attempted to commit suicide once already, helped arrange for circumstances to allow him to finish the job.
This is likely what happened. He should have been on suicide watch, anyone else would have been.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I heard they got this dude to do it. He's pretty good.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think he was told to off himself or something bad would happen to his family. Then guards were paid to look the other way despite suicide watch.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:36 am to Tunica
And once again, NOTHING will happen to any of them.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:39 am to Pecker
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How many times does it have to be repeated that this is a common, easy and painless way for people to commit suicide?
You don’t break your neck on that short of a drop. There wouldn’t be enough force to break it. Furthermore, if he had a broken neck beforehand, there is a 0% chance that he was able to carry out this act alone.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:39 am
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The mystery deepens
Dem damn dems got to him.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:46 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:47 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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You don’t break your neck on that short of a drop.
you absolutely can
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:51 am to Salmon
Not when you’re taller than what you’re anchoring the other end of your rope or in this case, bedsheet, to. Depending on how tall one is and how much one weighs, the drop has to be somewhere from 5-9 feet. And if what we’re reading about how his bunk was only 5 ft. in height, then I guess technically it is possible, but unlikely.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 7:55 am
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:52 am to TigerFanInSouthland
height has nothing to do with it Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:55 am to Salmon
Well then explain how he broke his neck.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 7:58 am to TigerFanInSouthland
standing on bed and falls forward
plenty of force to break a fragile neck bone, especially for an elderly person
plenty of force to break a fragile neck bone, especially for an elderly person
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:01 am to Salmon
I guess so, but if that’s the case I would like to know how he was laying when they found him. It’s still dubious in my mind that he could’ve broken his neck by the hanging alone.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:04 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I guess so, but if that’s the case I would like to know how he was laying when they found him.
sure
although its still possible that he could have seized or the force could have yanked his body in weird positions
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It’s still dubious in my mind that he could’ve broken his neck by the hanging alone.
it shouldn't be
him not being checked on and his roommate being moved is dubious
his neck bone being broken isn't
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:06 am to Salmon
I think a lot of y’all are visualizing a hanging like in a western where there is a free fall and a sudden stop. That isn’t how these prison hangings happen. They tie a sheet or pants or whatnot around their neck and a bedpost or cell bar and put their back to the object. They then kneel down and lean their body weight away from the object causing the tied material to begin to cut off their air/blood flow. They lean into it until they pass out and then the collapsing body weight really puts on the pressure and finishes the job. There isn’t a violent “snap” at any point.
ETA. Saw a demonstration of this on a documentary. I am not into prison hanging or anything.
ETA. Saw a demonstration of this on a documentary. I am not into prison hanging or anything.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 8:08 am
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:06 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
He was killed, guards were paid off. A lot of powerful people wanted him dead before trial
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:08 am to Salmon
How to break a neck via hanging;
Note, that is with a rope (not a bedsheet) and the knot placed under the ear of the subject.
Suicide hangings generally do not break the neck. They asphyxiate themselves.
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In the long drop, those planning the execution calculate the drop distance required to break the subject's neck based on his or her weight, height and build. They typically aim to get the body moving quickly enough after the trap door opens to produce between 1,000 and 1,250 foot-pounds of torque on the neck when the noose jerks tight. This distance can be anywhere from 5 to 9 feet (1.5 to 2.7 meters).
Note, that is with a rope (not a bedsheet) and the knot placed under the ear of the subject.
Suicide hangings generally do not break the neck. They asphyxiate themselves.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:08 am to jbgleason
that is one way of doing it
my Dad was an EMT for 40 years
he always told me it was amazing how creative people can be when it comes to killing yourself
my Dad was an EMT for 40 years
he always told me it was amazing how creative people can be when it comes to killing yourself
Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:09 am to Salmon
There can be more than one thing that is questionable in this case.
My thing is with that short of a fall, unless he made sure he kept his legs tucked the entire time, which is doubtful because the force would have jarred them from being tucked, to ensure his feet didn’t touch the ground before his neck broke/he was strangled by the sheet.
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although its still possible that he could have seized or the force could have yanked his body in weird positions
My thing is with that short of a fall, unless he made sure he kept his legs tucked the entire time, which is doubtful because the force would have jarred them from being tucked, to ensure his feet didn’t touch the ground before his neck broke/he was strangled by the sheet.
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