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re: Dude in Cleveland livestreaming murder on Facebook

Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:16 pm to
I think the whole "there are other bodies" angle is a play for being taken alive if he hasn't suicided.

They would want to know locations, names etc.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19649 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:19 pm to
Was checking in to see if they caught this POS yet. Does anyone mind providing a TLDR update on the status? Haven't been able to read up on it today. I saw they were supposed to have a press conference earlier today? TIA
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:22 pm to
We seriously need to reconsider our ideas of punishment and "justice" for animals like this . . . not saying we need to go back to this . . .


. . . well, maybe I am
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

I think the whole "there are other bodies" angle is a play for being taken alive if he hasn't suicided.

They would want to know locations, names etc.

That seems to be the most logical & plausible angle, and if that's the case, the "mental illness" crap, which some are spewing already, is blown out of the water. No one thinks in those scheming terms unless he is lucid & able to reason, and if he didn't know right from wrong, he certainly wouldn't be thinking in those terms, and definitely wouldn't be running and/or hiding.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:25 pm to
Ok..poop, or off pot..
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:26 pm to
It would take lots of planning to have a place to hold up and to do so without leaving any paper trail this day and age would be impossible.

Everybody wants this a-hole.

He can't access anything that involves interaction with the public.

Likely scenarios are that he is dead in his car in the woods somewhere or has gone to an isolated spot with limited provisions.

Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16646 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

think the whole "there are other bodies" angle is a play for being taken alive if he hasn't suicided.


He's not smart. He's a cowardly attention whore. It's a play for attention. Claiming other bodies gets attention and causes media to contact his ex.

He wants to make his bitch feel guilty.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Likely scenarios are that he is dead in his car in the woods somewhere or has gone to an isolated spot with limited provisions. 


He was in a 2016? Right?...seems it would have a GPS.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8868 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:31 pm to
He gave out his phone number on fb surely someone can gps ping his phone?
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:34 pm to
He is not mentally ill.

He has no criminal record and a good work history including working in a facility that offers behavioral services.

You don't wake up in your 30's or 40's being schizophrenic after spending decades being a good citizen.

Did he snap? Maybe.

He isn't mentally ill.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:40 pm to
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He gave out his phone number on fb surely someone can gps ping his phone?


If he had his phone on him he would be caught already.

If he has one it's a burner.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 10:48 pm to
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He's not smart.


Neither was Ottis Toole.

It's obvious that when committing a murder, you shouldn't document it. So yes, he wants to be heard about something.

And he isn't caught yet, which is more than most people could probably do if recording themselves killing a person, in daylight, saying names, you have everything you need to make it stick.

He didn't care to have the world know what he did, which makes little sense to not have it escalated into a full on shootout with law. Blaze of glory type.

Being dead somewhere..makes sense, when explaining why he hasn't been caught or seen..but doesn't make sense when lining it up against the actual crime IMO.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4729 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:16 pm to
I agree. This guy isn't mentally ill. He planned his actions out just not necessarily who he would kill. He told his mother on Saturday that it would probably be the last time she would see him.

He probably put his cell phone on a different vehicle traveling in a different direction or turned it off and dumped it somewhere. Picked up a cheap burner phone and by tomorrow night, he could be anywhere in the eastern half of United States. If he shaved and isn't still in the white car, he could blend in easily in a city.

If he is alive, he won't surface again until he needs cash.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

He is not mentally ill.

He has no criminal record and a good work history including working in a facility that offers behavioral services.

You don't wake up in your 30's or 40's being schizophrenic after spending decades being a good citizen.

Did he snap? Maybe.

He isn't mentally ill.

Absolutely agree. He obviously has some behavioral issues and/or personality disorders - every cold blooded killer/serial killer/sociopath/psychopath has those - but those are vastly different from "mental illness" in terms of the legal definition in most states in re using that as a defense. He definitely knows right from wrong which is the legal standard most of the time.
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 11:46 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:50 pm to
Sometimes I think black folks can be too forgiving.

Their unfortunate history and their steadfast dedication and belief and trust in faith, justice, and redemption keeps them prospering through the toughest of situations.

seen far to many others start to call for blood in these situation.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:50 pm to
Troof bottles are empty..
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

steadfast dedication
of what? Sticking hand out for more freebies?
This post was edited on 4/17/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:15 am to
It's to be ignored. The moronic, hypocritical asshurt race-baiting shtick is beyond pathetic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 12:28 am to
quote:

seen far to many others start to call for blood in these situation.


We're way past that. Bloods already been spilled.
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