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re: Don't worry Nola residents, NOPD is doing their job

Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:32 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:32 am to
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That's weird, because I've fought three separate tickets in court, been a dick about it when questioning the officer on the stand, and had the charges dismissed each time. So it looks like you don't know as much as you think.


You yourself have questioned officers on the stand? Let's hear some stories and see how believable you can make them.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
19088 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:32 am to
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Cop asks if she has her DL, which she doesn't because she literally just walked out in her pj's to move her car, but she has all other legal documents (insurance and registration) with her address clearly on them. Cop says doesn't matter, she needs to have her DL on her at all times in the car, writes her a ticket.
Just go to court with DL in hand, and ticket will be thrown out.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:32 am to
They let shite go if they think you are poor.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:35 am to
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Your GF is breaks the law and you criticized the police?


stereotypes are true
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:37 am to
from a cops perspective, how do you determine who is lying? how does he know she is just going around the corner to change parking spots?

how do we know she wasnt already dressed for work, making it look like she was going to work, to the cop?
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:41 am to
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People speeding on back roads could make the same claim. 



Uhh, that's a terrible comparison. Speeding, no matter where it's done, can be considered dangerous not only to the driver, but to any unexpecting motorists.

Carrying a DL is simply a regulatory measure that makes it convenient for law enforcement to check if you are a valid driver.

Apples and oranges.

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don't agree with it, but you aren't going to see me question when I get a legit ticket that doesn't come from a traffic cam.


OK then, you don't agree with it, I don't agree with it, its settled.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:43 am to
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That's not really an NOPD tactic at 8am on a Monday morning.





Which is why it was surprising. It was basically a checkpoint.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:44 am to
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Uhh, that's a terrible comparison


It's not.

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Speeding, no matter where it's done, can be considered dangerous not only to the driver, but to any unexpecting motorists.


That's just not true.

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Carrying a DL is simply a regulatory measure that makes it convenient for law enforcement to check if you are a valid driver.


And your gf was too stupid to have hers like she is required by law to do. Cry more about it.

Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12080 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:46 am to
My favorite was the unsafe lane change ticket I got. The prosecutor questioned the officer and I represented myself so I got to question him afterwards. In my most lawyer like tone I said," now I wasn't speeding, correct? Because you would've given me a ticket for that." And he acknowledged that was correct. I then asked if I had my blinker on, which I did, and he acknowledged I did. I then asked if any other cars had to hit their brakes or swerve to avoid me and he said no.

Then in my most condescending tone I Asked "now the markers dividing the lanes in question, were those solid white lines indicating no passing or are those dotted white lines indicating passing is legal" and he said they were dotted lines.

I ended my questioning with "so it's your testimony that I, while following the speed limit, turned on my blinker to indicate I was changing lanes, passed a vehicle while maintaining the speed limit, then placed my turn signal on to indicate I was changing lanes and changed lanes while maintaining a safe enough distance as to not effect any other cars on the road?" He stumbled with a "well yeah--I guess so".

I looked at the judge, shrugged and said no further questions in a questioning tone. She took about 2 seconds and said case dismissed.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:48 am to
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from a cops perspective, how do you determine who is lying? how does he know she is just going around the corner to change parking spots? 

how do we know she wasnt already dressed for work, making it look like she was going to work, to the cop?


A reasonable person would notice that her address is literally 100 ft away, and could simply ask her to pull over, run in and get her DL. I know we can't expect cops to be reasonable though
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:48 am to
That whole story smells like bullshite, but congrats on your big moment I guess.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89444 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:49 am to
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A reasonable person would notice that her address is literally 100 ft away, and could simply ask her to pull over, run in and get her DL. I know we can't expect cops to be reasonable though



A reasonable person would laugh at this expectation.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:50 am to
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That's just not true. 


Well I don't know what to tell you if you can't discern the difference between speeding and not carrying a DL.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:51 am to
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Well I don't know what to tell you if you can't discern the difference between speeding and not carrying a DL.


Explain the dangers of going <5 mph over the speed limit.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12080 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:53 am to
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A reasonable person would notice that her address is literally 100 ft away, and could simply ask her to pull over, run in and get her DL. I know we can't expect cops to be reasonable though


I'm on your side here, but how's he going to notice her address is 100 feet away without her license?
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12080 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:54 am to
Yeah Columbo, I'm just a really good creative writer and pulled that story out my arse on a moment's notice.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291698 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:55 am to
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A reasonable person would notice that her address is literally 100 ft away, and could simply ask her to pull over, run in and get her DL. I know we can't expect cops to be reasonable though




would have held up the checkpoint
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12080 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:58 am to
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Explain the dangers of going <5 mph over the speed limit.


I've give you the logic based reason. The speed limit is the maximum safe speed under optimal driving conditions. So if it were just as safe or more safe to go 5 mph over the speed limit then the speed limit would be 5 mph higher. Therefore it must be less safe to go 5 mph over the speed limit. Or 1 or 2 even.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70182 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:58 am to
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Carrying a DL is simply a regulatory measure that makes it convenient for law enforcement to check if you are a valid driver.


Aren't you required to carry proof of insurance in your vehicle also?
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:59 am to
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They let shite go if they think you are poor


Lol if you think that's true. They screw the poor equally if not worse, and when they don't pay the ticket, they put a warrant on the put them in jail over a signal light the next time.
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