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DOJ now considering court battle with WhatsApp over encryption
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:49 am
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While the Justice Department wages a public fight withApple over access to a locked iPhone, government officials are privately debating how to resolve a prolonged standoff with another technology company, WhatsApp, over access to its popular instant messaging application, officials and others involved in the case said.
No decision has been made, but a court fight with WhatsApp, the world’s largest mobile messaging service, would open a new front in the Obama administration’s dispute with Silicon Valley over encryption, security and privacy.
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The Justice Department and WhatsApp declined to comment. The government officials and others who discussed the dispute did so on condition of anonymity because the wiretap order and all the information associated with it were under seal. The nature of the case was not clear, except that officials said it was not a terrorism investigation. The location of the investigation was also unclear.
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To understand the battle lines, consider this imperfect analogy from the predigital world: If the Apple dispute is akin to whether the F.B.I. can unlock your front door and search your house, the issue with WhatsApp is whether it can listen to your phone calls. In the era of encryption, neither question has a clear answer.
Some investigators view the WhatsApp issue as even more significant than the one over locked phones because it goes to the heart of the future of wiretapping. They say the Justice Department should ask a judge to force WhatsApp to help the government get information that has been encrypted. Others are reluctant to escalate the dispute, particularly with senators saying they will soon introduce legislation to help the government get data in a format it can read.
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:55 am to NYNolaguy1
Listening to an interview with a former Presidential security executive, he believes that the San Bernadino phone could have been cracked by the NSA had the FBI choosen to give it to them rather than trying to turn this into a case in the attempt to setup a legal framework where the government can compell some types of speech.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:56 am to NYNolaguy1
Anybody that believes that the government cant hack into an iPhone is a mother f****** retard
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:58 am to Clames
It's even worse than that.
The FBI changed settings to make iCloud backups impossible. And Apple would have (and have) complied with handing over the back up.
This whole thing is that there is a six week void space from the last backup till when they changed the settings.
The FBI changed settings to make iCloud backups impossible. And Apple would have (and have) complied with handing over the back up.
This whole thing is that there is a six week void space from the last backup till when they changed the settings.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:06 am to Placebeaux
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Anybody that believes that the government cant hack into an iPhone is a mother f****** retard
There isn't a magical NSA key that can bypass strong encryption. It's why the government has been fighting it being widely used for 30 years
Note that this whole thing isn't to get Apple to decrypt the phone. They can't either.
All this is about the FBI asking Apple to weaken the weakest part of the security: the front door pass code.
They want to be able to brute force it and the 10k pin combinations, but the current set up would wipe the phone long before they could get the right PIN
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:21 am to Volvagia
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All this is about the FBI asking Apple to weaken the weakest part of the security: the front door pass code.
And now Apple is eliminating the backdoor for the next operating system.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 10:24 am to torrey225
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And now Apple is eliminating the backdoor for the next operating system.
My fear is that, in response to that, our beloved Congress will mandate that all phones have to be fully accessible to LEO. This will include communications within the phone (I.e. WhatsApp).
Scary times we live in.
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