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Dog Training Question - Non Hunting Dog
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:27 pm
Has anyone done extensive obedience training with their dog and what did you think?
I have a 3 year old dog that knows commands well, but chooses not to listen a lot of the time (yes i know its me not the dog). I purchased a shock collar and researched how to train the dog using it, but that was not successful for me.
I am debating sending her to a trainer for a month or so because long term it would be great to be able to run with her off leash and have more control in general.
Anybody have thoughts on this with an older/non-hunting dog? And any recommendations in or around Lafayette!
Thanks!
I have a 3 year old dog that knows commands well, but chooses not to listen a lot of the time (yes i know its me not the dog). I purchased a shock collar and researched how to train the dog using it, but that was not successful for me.
I am debating sending her to a trainer for a month or so because long term it would be great to be able to run with her off leash and have more control in general.
Anybody have thoughts on this with an older/non-hunting dog? And any recommendations in or around Lafayette!
Thanks!
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:31 pm to cajuntiger26
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I am debating sending her to a trainer for a month or so
useless if you aren't going to continue the training at home. don't waste your money if you're going to let the dog alpha you
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:32 pm to cajuntiger26
Pinch collar. There. I saved you a stupid expense.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:42 pm to cajuntiger26
quote:
I have a 3 year old dog that knows commands well, but chooses not to listen a lot of the time
A good shock collar will fix this with the quickness.
FYI- Shock collars have multiple settings from a tickle to a real shock. Collars should only be used on dogs that know commands and only enough juice should be to get a corrective response from the dog...
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:47 pm to ZekeTheTeke
quote:
useless if you aren't going to continue the training at home. don't waste your money if you're going to let the dog alpha you
I will definitely continue the training. But even as much as i have researched training tips it's much more effective with a professional teaching me and the dog the ropes.
quote:
A good shock collar will fix this with the quickness.
I have a shock collar. Did a good bit of research on how to implement correctly, but it did not work well for me. My dog doesn't understand when she gets shocked even on the lowest setting and I couldn't overcome that. I know that im am not training her correctly with it, but I tried to do my homework on that one.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:48 pm to cajuntiger26
quote:
I have a shock collar. Did a good bit of research on how to implement correctly, but it did not work well for me. My dog doesn't understand when she gets shocked even on the lowest setting and I couldn't overcome that. I know that im am not training her correctly with it, but I tried to do my homework on that one.
Then you have a training issue...
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:50 pm to wickowick
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Then you have a training issue...
which is why I am asking about trainers...
Posted on 12/5/14 at 1:56 pm to cajuntiger26
Another thing is to train dog before he eats. A hungry dog is a attentive dog.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:25 pm to cajuntiger26
Dog training requires:
-patience
-consistency
-timimg
-understanding the difference between the dog being confused or it being disobedient
-trying to utilize more positive re-enforcement than negative
The e collar, when used correctly, should correct the issues you listed. You cannot be lazy, putting the collar on the dog only when you want to train, you should put it on your dog every day. Try to make it some days where you would not anticipate having to correct the dog so the dog will not associate the collar with being shocked.Food training can be very powerful as well...a hungry dog will do almost anything to be able to eat.
Consistency and repetition is the key. If you find yourself getting frustrated dealing with your dog, put it up...nothing good comes from you having an angry response to your dog..and Youtube is very much your friend in this.
-patience
-consistency
-timimg
-understanding the difference between the dog being confused or it being disobedient
-trying to utilize more positive re-enforcement than negative
The e collar, when used correctly, should correct the issues you listed. You cannot be lazy, putting the collar on the dog only when you want to train, you should put it on your dog every day. Try to make it some days where you would not anticipate having to correct the dog so the dog will not associate the collar with being shocked.Food training can be very powerful as well...a hungry dog will do almost anything to be able to eat.
Consistency and repetition is the key. If you find yourself getting frustrated dealing with your dog, put it up...nothing good comes from you having an angry response to your dog..and Youtube is very much your friend in this.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:04 pm to cajuntiger26
You need to attend training with your dog. Sending your dog off for a month teaches the dog commands but it doesn't fix the issue. Good luck!
And yes I have done this with a company called trainmydog here in austin. It's helped tremendously. They worked to get my border collie under control while off leash and they even helped with outdoor relaxed environment manners - like restaurant patios.
And yes I have done this with a company called trainmydog here in austin. It's helped tremendously. They worked to get my border collie under control while off leash and they even helped with outdoor relaxed environment manners - like restaurant patios.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:14 pm to wickowick
quote:Wick I have a question for you:
wickowick
I have a catahoula who is a great dog and she listens well. I want to train her to be able to walk off leash when we go into the woods and not worry about her running off to god know where(which she does right now). How do you suggest going about this?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:38 pm to gorky
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You need to attend training with your dog. Sending your dog off for a month teaches the dog commands but it doesn't fix the issue. Good luck!
I completely agree. I actually work with my dog quite a bit as is and I think most people would consider her to be very well trained. But that doesn't mean she couldn't be better and I couldn't be taught some things.
I fully expect to be involved in the process, but emulating youtube videos and articles online is easier said than done.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:43 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I have a catahoula who is a great dog and she listens well. I want to train her to be able to walk off leash when we go into the woods and not worry about her running off to god know where(which she does right now). How do you suggest going about this?
Different dogs have different tendances, I have German Shorthairs this is natural for them, so I have never had to teach it. I think most dogs in the woods or fields off leash need a shock collar. It is insurance and helps keep them honest.
I would probably use a long check cord and try them out and see how they do. The use of a whistle to call them back can also be an invaluable tool.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:48 pm to wickowick
quote:I think a shock collar will be the only way. She knows she is doing wrong when she doesnt come back, but her urge to follow something in the woods is too much
Different dogs have different tendances, I have German Shorthairs this is natural for them, so I have never had to teach it. I think most dogs in the woods or fields off leash need a shock collar. It is insurance and helps keep them honest.
I would probably use a long check cord and try them out and see how they do. The use of a whistle to call them back can also be an invaluable tool.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:00 pm to cajuntiger26
Sounds like a pack order issue. She doesn't respect you as alpha if she has selective obedience. Go to leerburg.com and spend a few hours reading his articles, especially the article titled 'establishing pack order.' It was extremely informative for me with an adult male pitbull terrier we rescued last September. I've owned/trained bully dogs for 30 years and learned more there in 5 days than I had in the previous decade.
The process is a little inconvenient for 2 legged pack members but if you follow his advice you and the dog will appreciate it in 2 months.
The process is a little inconvenient for 2 legged pack members but if you follow his advice you and the dog will appreciate it in 2 months.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:03 pm to BowtieBengal
Thumper is now, by far, the most obedient dog, any breed, I have ever owned.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:07 pm to gorky
quote:
They worked to get my border collie under control while off leash
I thought Border Collies generally listened very well. I know mine does.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:37 pm to Broke
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I thought Border Collies generally listened very well. I know mine does.
She's a mix of a border collie, Aussie, and Anatolian shepherd. She can focus for a little while and then SQUIRREL...BIRD...
She's two but we got her a year ago and she had a broken shoulder. We couldn't work with her until we had it rebuilt and then rehabbed...she NEEDED training after all that.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:43 pm to gorky
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She's a mix of a border collie, Aussie, and Anatolian shepherd. She can focus for a little while and then SQUIRREL...BIRD...
She's two but we got her a year ago and she had a broken shoulder. We couldn't work with her until we had it rebuilt and then rehabbed...she NEEDED training after all that.
Kuddos!
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:50 pm to Broke
Thanks! We love her! She makes sure I'm not sitting around for too long which is great for me! You're not allowed to be lazy with her unless you want her to destroy your shoes.
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