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re: Doctors hate their jobs (and it's not because of obamacare)
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:21 pm to cornhat
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:21 pm to cornhat
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You mind explaining? I'm curious since I'm a student.
If primary care docs will get adequately trained in office procedures, take care of their patients, keep overhead low, code appropriately, and do most of their own ancillaries(EKG,PFT's,X-ray,etc..)the sky is the limit. Not to mention adding midlevel providers to generate more income and act as referral sources for your derm, injections, allergy etc. But you're gonna work. That's true in any field though.
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:21 pm to Yellerhammer5
Correct. 
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:29 pm to SmackoverHawg
That's interesting cause the school and other docs try to make midlevel providers seem like the bogeyman, coming to take away all our jobs.
I prefer your approach, and I'm sure patients do too, but it seems like a lot of capital is needed to get that sort of practice running. How soon after residency is that feasible? I like primary care but I'm up to my eyeballs in loans.
I prefer your approach, and I'm sure patients do too, but it seems like a lot of capital is needed to get that sort of practice running. How soon after residency is that feasible? I like primary care but I'm up to my eyeballs in loans.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:36 pm to RedRifle
Wait I'm sorry, we're supposed to feel sorry for doctors now?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:36 pm to RedRifle
What's your issue with physicians and the medical industry?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
Relax. You're not quite a dr. Close. But you're not
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:39 pm to Paige
frick off. This dude is the worst poster on this site. He's constantly bashing the meds. I'm asking why.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:39 pm to SmackoverHawg
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They have all the leverage in this and choose not to use it. Interdasting.
Because most are gutless pussies that grew up being hall monitors and are more than happy to kiss administration's arse in return for a pat on the back. I take zero shite from any of them. You give me shite...I shut you out. When you have by far the largest practice in a given area, this can have a huge impact. If only I could get others to follow suit. But if anybody has ever seen the clusterfrick it becomes when a bunch of docs get together, you'd understand why we don't band together. Too many ego's. And the least successful ones seem to be the ones that know everything. Piss on 'em. After years of not listening too me cause I was the youngster, now they wanna partner with me and/or work for me.
I was waiting for your post. What pussy is downvoting. Probably a hospital pharmacist.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:42 pm to Marco Esquandolas
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After 4 years of mental grueling med school and another 4 of physical grueling residency and possibly another year of fellowship---I have no problem with them making that and more. Have you committed 9 years post graduate to difficult studies?
Yes, and I can point you to thousands of people that spent a grueling 4-8 years beyond undergrad earning a PhD in some area of physical science ( average length of time to earn a physics PhD is now 6 years), then enduring several years of post grad appointments hoping to eventually land a permanent position where they will be more than happy to make $85K/year. I have no problem with physicians making a million dollars a year if that is what the market dictates, but using the difficulty of school an number of years it takes is not much of a justification in of itself.
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
?? Bashing the meds? What are you talking about? This is the most vilified industry and it's not even is fault.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:48 pm to RedRifle
It seems like you're always posting shite. Are you in med school?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:49 pm to tgrbaitn08
Whoa. Calm down bro. It was a joke. Relax
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:51 pm to cornhat
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That's interesting cause the school and other docs try to make midlevel providers seem like the bogeyman, coming to take away all our jobs. I prefer your approach, and I'm sure patients do too, but it seems like a lot of capital is needed to get that sort of practice running. How soon after residency is that feasible? I like primary care but I'm up to my eyeballs in loans.
I use my mid levels to compliment my skills. I hate tedious bullshite. So, I have them do diabetic foot checks and care, update PMFSH and med lists, simple med checks, head colds etc. No reason we can't all get along and profit while providing the pt with better overall care.
I started up right out of residency, but I had a unique situation. Many small towns/hospitals will help fund your start. Start small then add ancillaries and mid levels as your practice grows. Hit up auctions of closed practices for really good deals on office equipment and furniture. I had capital saved from moonlighting while doing residency. That's what great about FP residency is the ability to make substantial income on the side in the ER. As an FP, you'll do way better in smaller areas. And the overhead will be much lower.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:51 pm to RedRifle
Sounds like that doctor just picked a shitty place to work
The doctors I've worked for have not shared that sentiment
The doctors I've worked for have not shared that sentiment
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:53 pm to Paige
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The doctors I've worked for have not shared that sentiment
You can only be so depressed in a strip club.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:53 pm to GEAUXT
Well why do doctors, hospitals and other healthcare professionals bill so high when they have to write off so much of that?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:54 pm to tgrbaitn08
Back your shite up. When have I bashed the industry? All I've posted are felt page Wall Street journal articles.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:55 pm to EA6B
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Yes, and I can point you to thousands of people that spent a grueling 4-8 years beyond undergrad earning a PhD in some area of physical science ( average
Odd...I know many and can't point to a single one that has gone 4-5 days sleepless while busting arse continuously while dealing with life or death situations. REAL situations...not theoretical bullshite. We get hazed like mf'ers in school and residency. NOBODY would do that shite hoping for a meager existence.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:56 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:Thanks. I appreciate the advice.
SmackoverHawg
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